Ye are Gods?

“Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?”

John 10:34-36

What do you think of when you read the verses above? This statement by Yahushua has become the center of at least a small controversy…but it has based on an increasingly popular concept.

The idea that mankind are “little gods”, or can become such through faith or spiritual enlightenment, is a very old belief – but its popularity amongst Christians is more recent.

These verses in John are very often held up as indicators that this is a biblical concept which even ordained Pastors and Ministers are teaching their congregations.

It is a seemingly small matter…these few lines and the Psalm that it references, but we can not underestimate what it means to our faith to understand its true meaning properly.

The basis of the doctrine which teaches that Yahushua and thus the Father were speaking of men comes from the inference of the words “If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came” being about those prophets to whom the revelation of the Holy Spirit came.

That would seem to be a justifiable conclusion derived from these verses in John.

Yahushua was, however, referring back to Psalm 82, and so we should not neglect to refer to that ourselves in order to understand the full message here.

Psalm 82:1-7

“God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”

Let’s consider this…line by line.

“God (Elohim) standeth in the congregation of the mighty (El); he judgeth among the gods (elohim).”

YWHW is the judge of these lesser beings…the “mighty ones” or “elohim”. These terms are used throughout the old testament in reference to created beings inferior to YWHW but greater than man. It is neither restricted to faithful beings nor unfaithful beings..but is used for both. We might generally refer to them as angels of various ranks but its never used in reference to mankind.

“How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked?

Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.”

YWHW addresses this congregation with His displeasure at their conduct. These individuals have obviously been given a position of governance over groups of people. Could it be argued that this can not refer to angelic beings because of this reference of governance? Consider these verses:

“For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. ” – Hebrews 2:5 – Here we see the declaration of a new way of things…the present world must be in subjection to angels if there is a basis for making the comparison to a new world which will not be.

“Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.” – Daniel 10:20 – Here the angel sent to speak to Daniel refers to two princes which he will fight. One has already detained him on his way to Daniel…these are clearly not human leaders but angelic beings. Certainly no human prince could have detained an angel.

“I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.”

Here YHWH makes a point…these individuals He is speaking to have every reason to be capable of doing the justice that He has admonished them for not doing. “You are elohim” He says…”sons (ben) of the Highest (Elyowm). In the Old Testament the phrase “sons of god” is used exclusively for angelic beings. In the New Testament it is extended as a gift to mankind who are redeemed in Yahushua. It is a term which denotes direct creation by YHWH rather than a natural, earthly birth. Before Messiah came…there were no human sons of Elohim.

“But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”

Perhaps the most telling line of these verses is here. “You will die like men”  would be a particularly pointless statement if it was directed towards men. It goes without saying that a human will die like a human but this statement is directed at individuals who would not normally die in a mortal way. It is a declaration of a grim curse on those it is spoken to.

In 1 Enoch there is a prophecy which explains who these beings were….they are termed “shepherds” and were allowed governance over human nations…but they were corrupt.

“Take those seventy shepherds to whom I delivered the sheep, and who taking them on their own authority slew more than I commanded them.” 23. And behold they were all bound, I saw, and they all stood before Him. 24. And the judgement was held first over the stars, and they were judged and found guilty, and went to the place of condemnation, and they were cast into an abyss, full of fire and flaming, and full of pillars of fire. 25. And those seventy shepherds were judged and found guilty, and they were cast into that fiery abyss.”

1 Enoch 90:22-25

The Psalm that refers to these beings constitutes one of many verses in the bible which was stripped of much of the background that explains it because of the omission of 1 Enoch. It also thus allows modern bible interpreters to misuse the message to promote something that has its roots in the very first human sin…and the very first lie told to mankind by Satan…”Ye shall be like gods”.

Since that first lie, man has not ceased to go after the fruits of Satan’s promise. It is the cornerstone of every secret society…every Luciferian doctrine…every establishment of the antichrist system;

Ye shall not surely die – Genesis 3:4 The Luciferian occult teaches that man may attain his own immortality by his own efforts

Your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as god, knowing good and evil – The occult elite likewise believe and teach illumination, initiation into mysteries and awakening of one’s higher perception. It is a promise of secret and godlike knowledge which Satan has used to control the masses.

What was the first perception which Adam and Eve became “enlightened” to? Their own shame. Nothing much has changed.

Beware of wolves in sheeps’ clothing and the subtlety of the Serpent who will even use the Word of Truth in twisted form to whisper a lie to your ears.

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8 Responses to “Ye are Gods?”

  1. This is pure deception and pastors are literally leading whole congregations to hell. They have allowed their freemason, overtaken leadership to prevail.

    • Very True, Fred…its a sad state in today’s mainstream churches. I hope believers exposed to this will question it and will put those claims to the test by His word.

      Peace in Yahushua
      Cyprium

  2. awesome.. ive often wondered about the real meaning of that verse. thanks! this is such a wonderful site.

  3. Erno S. Schoonewolff Says:

    I want to congratulate you with this very unique website, with so many insights in difficult topics. Since I am also studying the Book of Henoch, I would like you to explain Henoch chapter 68:19-20. I want to thank you in advance for your efforts. May our God YHWH give you wisdom and understanding in this, through Jesus Christ His Son and with the help of the Holy Spirit Amen,
    Yours truly,
    Erno

  4. why did Jesus allude to Psalm 82 in that case?? i believe that the “gods” ARE angels, but why would He say that? i see/hear Pastors referring to themselves as “gods”, no argument there. i had this conversation with someone who holds the “Sons of God = Sethite” view, and he used this reference in Psalm 82 to further his case. all i could point to was “ye shall die like men”. but they can explain that away also with a Proverb ’bout Kings dying like peasants or some other thing. know that i do not disagree, but is there another Psalm b which Jesus meant the phrase?

    peace.

  5. Hello Gabriel…

    There are references in scripture to allocations of nations to the care of angelic “shepherds”. One such reference is in Hebrews 2:5

    - “For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.”

    (The New Earth will not have angelic shepherds)

    In 1 Enoch, 70 such shepherds are described who overstepped their boundaries and leveled judgements upon their charges which were not ordered by YHWH.

    I would consider Psalm 82 to be a reference to the fairly lousy job those angelic shepherds did at governing earth’s inhabitants. The word King and the word angel in Hebrew are basically identical…one having been derived from the other. When Israel was intent on having a “King”, YHWH was not pleased. Governments imposed on people by anyone other than Him become tyrannies.

    He is the Good Shepherd…the Only Good Shepherd.

    Peace in Yahushua

  6. yes, that Hebrew verse says much. i understand, from as much as can be gathered by SOME Hebrew tradition, and more clearly in the ancient scripts, that, angels are in rule over this current world system in this present darkness. i dig dig this site.

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