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Was There an 8th Day of Creation?

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For most who read and believe scripture, the account of creation in Genesis is understood to have taken place in six days, the seventh day being that one which was set apart as a day of rest from all that YHWH made.

There are, however, some who do not believe that creation ceased on day six, but proceeded to day eight on which Adam, who is normally thought of as the first man, was created.

Those who have this view do not consider Adam and Eve to have been the first humans on Earth, but rather believe that those who were made on day six were a separate creation of human/ humanoid beings.

Often it is explained in terms of these first ones having been all the various races minus that one which was chosen to bring forth Messiah, who was Adam, created on day eight.

It would not be wise to choose either view simply on how the information impresses one at first thought.

Neither adhering to the more well accepted sixth day creation because of tradition, nor adopting the eight day view because of its novelty are good foundations for a clear answer.

Perhaps many who choose either one, having encountered both, do so on the grounds of one of those two reasons, but all interpretation should be tested thoroughly.

Support for the belief in an eighth day creation for Adam are often the following:

1. There is a clear distinction in the telling of the sixth day “humans” and the later telling of the creation of Adam. (Genesis 1 and Genesis 2)

2. The first people were created “in His image” both male and female, rather than Adam who was created alone (and androgynous) and later had a wife made for him out of his own flesh.

3. The first people were created, while Adam was “formed” out of the ground

4. There is a correlation between the first people created and the “beast of the earth” created on the sixth day.

5. The creation of the “eighth day” is evident in the pattern for all of human history – 7,000 years followed by the “eighth day” of the new creation.

6. The “breath of life” breathed into Adam is synonymous with a soul or spirit which the first created people did not have. The first people had YHWH’s likeness, the second had His spirit.

7. Cain mentioned “everyone” who found him would kill him for his crime against Abel and the only explanation for those others is that there were people created prior to Adam and Eve.

8. Cain found a wife and this wife must have been one of those of the people who had been made before Adam and Eve.

Knowing whether or not these points are a good support for the theory means addressing each one in the context of scripture, demanding that scripture make a probable, not just possible case for it.

The same is true of the conventional understanding. His word is not given in a way that requires us to guess. In the end, all correct interpretations will be those which add up to the simplest and most comprehensible answer according to literal language.

One Act or Two?

In Genesis chapter 1 there is a chronological description of creation, describing each day and what was made on that day. The first day describes the creation of the Earth, light, day and night. On the second day was the creation of the firmament of heaven. On the third day, dry land was made to appear and created plant life. On day four were the luminaries of heaven made, the stars, sun and moon. On day five were made sea creatures and birds. On day six, land animals were made, reptiles, mammals and finally people.

“Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind. Cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to its kind,” and it was so.

And ‘Elohiym made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good.

Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

So ‘Elohiym created the man in His image, in the image of ‘Elohiym He created him, male and female He created them.”

– Genesis 1:24-27

The seventh day is then set apart for rest from all these things YHWH made, but after the description of the seventh day comes another telling of the creation of humans.

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed the man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living creature.

Yahuwah ‘Elohiym planted a garden eastward in ‘Eden and there He put the man whom He had formed”.

– Genesis 2:7, 8

Is this a continuation of the account proceeding in chronological order to the eighth day? There are two points which seriously hinder this being probable.

All other days described before this are done in such a precise way as to pointedly mention the beginning and ending of each “the evening and the morning” as in: “So the evening and the morning were Day One.”, also giving each day aclear number.

This is absent for an eighth day. There is no mention of an evening and a morning encompassing a certain day on which this occurred, nor is there any mention of “day eight”.

The second hindrance is an even more difficult one to justify. The proclamation of the end of the sixth day reads like this:

Thus the heavens and the earth and all (kol: whole, all, any every) the host of them were finished (kalah: end, to be finished, ceased). – Genesis 2:1

There is a clear statement that all things had been made at this point and that following this was cessation from the act of creation.

In His Image: Created or Formed?

Is there an indication that the first account describes a simultaneous “creation” of man and woman while the second describes a process of “forming” Adam alone from the clay?

The first account reads as follows:

“So ‘Elohiym created (bara: create) the man (adam) in His image, in the image of ‘Elohiym He created him, male and female He created (bara:create) them.”

– Genesis 1:27

Here there is the word “bara” which is pointed out as differing from the word used in the “forming” of Adam in Genesis 2:

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed (yatsar: mold, squeeze) the man (adam) of the dust of the ground”

– Genesis 2:7

If there is a point being made here referencing a different mode of creation employed between the first and second humans, it should by all means remain consistent. It is, however, not the case.

In Genesis 4 is the account of the birth of Seth, who is born in replacement of the slain Abel. We must be assured that Seth was the son of Adam and Eve, this being repeated throughout scripture many times, not the son of an earlier creation of humans.

Following this account is the use of the word “bara” (create) in reference to Adam and Eve as well as a reference to their creation “in His image”.

“And ‘Adam knew his wife again and she bare a son and called his name Sheth, “For ‘Elohiym,” she said, “has appointed me another seed instead of ‘Hebel whom Qayin slew.”

And to Sheth, to him also there was born a son and he called his name ‘Enowsh. Then men began to call upon the name of Yahuwah.

This is the book of the generations of man (adam) in the day that ‘Elohiym created mankind.

In the likeness of ‘Elohiym He made him, male and female He created (bara) them and blessed them and called their name ‘Adam in the day when they were created.”

– Genesis 4: 25, 26, Genesis 5:1, 2

Beast of the Earth connected to First Humans?

It is often believed among those who support an 8th day creation that the description of the creation of the “beast of the Earth” in Genesis is synonymous with those first humans created prior to Adam. This is also, many times, connected with the Beast of the Earth mentioned in Revelation.

Scripture gives the account of the creation of the “beast of the Earth” in Genesis like this:

“And ‘Elohiym made the beast (chay: life,living) of the earth according to its kind, cattle (behemah) according to its kind, and everything that creeps (remes:reptile) on the earth according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good. .”

– Genesis 1:25

There is perhaps little to be said of this as any connection to the creation of human or humanlike creatures. The word “chay” preceding a list of animals which were made on the sixth day could only logically be a collective statement before a more detailed list. It is not a word which is specific to any certain sort of living creature.

Where this connection is usually made, it is included within a doctrine that strongly supports the idea of a superior race and lesser peoples who are made fundamentally different by the manner of their creation.

It is often found in Christian identity and British Israelism cults and follows the ages old tradition of an idea which began in the rulership of nephilim over weaker humans.

Turned upside down, this idea is given a Christian face with which to tempt the pride of believers and alienate various ethnic groups from Christianity.

Is the Future New Heaven and Earth created on an “eighth day”?

It is said that one day is equal to a thousand years in the eyes of YHWH and though the precise days of creation are given in terms of 24 hour intervals, the whole of human history might be sensibly mapped out over a week of millennia.

It is completed, therefor, in the same time construct as the act of creation. It is theorized that if Adam was the new creation of the eighth day, his creation coincides with the new heaven and new earth to be created after the thousand year Sabbath of Messiah’s reign.

The difficulty with this idea is that the model we have been given to observe has no day eight. We are shown a seven day cycle, the last day of which is Sabbath and the following day is not day eight, but day one.

The concept of a day eight in the cycle is only applicable within an occult context where there is an emphasis on day eight being the day of the phoenix, the rebirth, the new age.

Sabbath, by it’s very nature, is special because it is the final touch on creation, it is the moment where the labors are enjoyed instead of toiled over, it is the sum reward of all things worked for.

When the millennial reign of Messiah ends, we should not expect and eternal rotation of the same patterns of time we now have. By being a new creation, even time itself will not be measurable by any present concept of it, that also, will be new. There can be no day eight in a new creation as eight proceeds from the prior series of numbers1-7 and is not, by definition, new.

Did Elohim impart His spirit to Adam but not to the first humans?

In Genesis 1:26 it is said that “man” is made in His image:

“Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

– Genesis 1:26

The later account describes the formation of Adam and how he became a living being:

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed the man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living creature.”

– Genesis 2:7

It is believed by many who see these as separate creations that this describes the difference between those first humans and Adam. While the first received the physical likeness of their maker, the second received His Spirit, indicated by the words “breath of life”.

The phrase “breath of life” and “living soul” is understood in this belief to refer to life in a spiritual or eternal sense. The words themselves, though, do not indicate a special or eternal sort of life which was exclusively given to Adam, but rather an animating force which is applicable to all things which live and breathe.

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed (yatsar: mold, squeeze) the man (adam) of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath (n’shamah: puff, wind, breath) of life (chay:life,living) and the man (adam) became a living (chay) soul (nephesh: breathing, living creature).

Yahuwah ‘Elohiym planted a garden eastward in ‘Eden and there He put the man (adam) whom He had formed (yatsar).”

– Genesis 2:7,8

Here “chay” is used, just as it is used earlier in Genesis to describe the sort of life which animals have. The word “nephesh”, which is often translated as “soul” cannot be understood in the sense of what people normally think of as a soul. It, also, is used to describe a creature, any creature, who is living and breathing as shown here:

“So ‘Elohiym created great sea creatures and every living thing (nephesh) that moves, with which the waters abounded according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good.”

– Genesis 1:21

Was the “everyone” Cain was afraid of an indication of multitudes of humans made before Adam?

Cain made this well known statement when he was cursed by YHWH to become a vagabond for the murder of his brother:

“And Qayin said to Yahuwah, “My punishment is greater than I can bear!
Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground.

I shall be hidden from Your face. I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth and it will happen that anyone who finds me will kill me.”

– Genesis 4:13, 14

Anyone or “every one”, as it is given in the KJV, is seen as indicating a great number of people. That indication is not literally present, but thought to implied by the way it is often used in the context of the English language.

The word is translated from “kol” which properly means, any, all or every. It does not indicate a number, either few or many, but simply describes any or every of whatever certain group is in question. It would make as much sense if Adam and Eve were the only two others as much as it would if there were multitudes of others.

Jubilees is a helpful text in considering the theory of the eighth day creation as a whole and it gives a good idea of how many people were on earth as produced through Adam and Eve at the time of this event.

Without including possible grandchildren, there would have been approximately eleven children of Adam and Eve alive at the time conservatively. All of these would perhaps feel justified in seeking due vengeance for their brother’s murder.

“And in the third week in the second jubilee she gave birth to Cain, and in the fourth she gave birth to Abel, and in the fifth she gave birth to her daughter Âwân.

And in the first (year) of the third jubilee, Cain slew Abel because (God) accepted the sacrifice of Abel, and did not accept the offering of Cain”

– Jubilees 4:1, 2

Where did Cain find a wife?

It is often pointed out that Cain could not have gotten a wife anywhere if there had not been “other” humans present who were not of his own parents. There is no reason to assume this, however.

The command against incest had not yet been given, and for a good reason, all who were available for marriage in the beginnings were siblings. Jubilees also offers insight to Cain’s wife:

“And Cain took ’Âwân his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch.”

– Jubilees 4:9

The introduction of the theory of two creations of mankind is an important indicator of the motive, reasoning and philosophy behind it.

If it were intended as the interpretation we should receive from His word, its teaching should bear the fruit of that and be identifiable in both ancient Judaism (before Babylon) as well as the early Christian church.

Where it has sprung up, though is not in either of these places, but in the mind of a Jewish man who lived in Alexandria and who was much more a student of Greek pagan philosophy than Judaism.

Philo of Alexandria was known for his writings which attempted to meld together traditional Judaism and Greek philosophy.

It is an attempt which is not unlike the goal the Catholic church worked toward in melding together Christianity and pagan religious systems.

He interpreted nothing in scripture as literally true, but believed in a symbolic and allegoric interpretation which in essence means nothing, as no symbol is meaningful without a clear object or truth which it symbolizes.

If YHWH meant to give us riddles which only a few could understand, why then can we easily recognize the message present in His word that demonstrates how He uses simplicity and lowliness rather than worldly wisdom and high estate?

“Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants You have ordained strength because of Your enemies that You may silence the enemy and the avenger”.

-Psalm 8:2

Philo sought to”reveal” a cryptic and hidden meaning in the bible which was not there, the same snare which continually draws believers, even today, down a path of speculation which inevitably draws ever nearer a pagan religious system and away from a truth YHWH plainly gave.

One of these cryptic meanings he revealed to his followers was the theory of an eighth day creation, stating that the first men were made in a perishable physical image of their maker but the second were created as creatures with His spirit.

The very theory that makes it’s appearance in the beliefs of many seeking Christians today originated in a man who taught concepts which were derived out of Greek Mystery Religions.

We have a Creator who has given us a perfect representation of truth in a most logical, most common sense way. and I have never known anything written to have made as much sense as His word does when read just as it reads.

It is the persistent Author of Confusion, Satan, who seeks to make what was simple into something complicated, knotted and difficult to follow. There might be no better general rule of reading His word than “if it is not said, it was not meant.”.

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Baptisms of Water and Fire

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In scripture is contained what could be called hyperdimensional truth.

Most are taught the contents of the bible in isolated pieces, each event, prophecy and commandment explained as its own disconnected component, either interpreted as a purely concrete or purely abstract.

The Word of YHWH, however, presents nothing in isolation. Since all laws defined by Him are present in all things at all times. Causes and effects can be shown to present themselves the same way in the same themes over and over.

Truth communicated biblically in one event extends far backward and forward from that one event, and connects infinitely to every other law upholding creation.

Beginning with one theme presented in scripture; baptism, it is possible to spend years, decades, even a life time and more, revealing all that it means, why it does and to what other themes it has direct connection to.

Though it would be impossible to show that here, it can be demonstrated in a small fraction of the whole.

All are aware of what baptism is – a full body immersion in water done as a sign of obedience in following Messiah. It shows in a symbolic way a cleansing by death to an old nature as one is lowered beneath water, and then a restoration to new life, as one is brought back up from the water.

The symbol does not stand alone though, and if it did, it would make little sense. It must re-enact a fundamental truth of sin, death, cleansing and new life or else any set of ritualistic motions would be just as good.

Catholicism practices infant baptism by sprinkling of water and yet that is by no means the biblical example given of what baptism is. There is a real set of criteria which baptism must be which is based on a solid foundation of truth that extends beyond just getting a body wet.

This begins with a man called “The Descent”. That is the literal way to say the name of an early patriarch who lived before the flood named Yered (Jared).

In his day, the descent of the rebel faction of Watchers occurred and they descended upon the summit of Mt. Hermon. They came in, introducing physical corruption to a creation which was already spiritually corrupted by the army of Satan.

When the flood came upon the Earth, it cleansed. It wiped from its surface the physical corruptions of creation which had been done in it. The survivors of the dry ground existed in one small ark carrying a man, his family and the preserved animal life with them.

In this event, the Earth underwent water baptism. It was a physical solution to a physical problem and yet also a foreshadowing of a final solution to a deeper, spiritual problem.

Hebrews, of which stock came the twelve tribes of Israel, descended from a man named Eber, his name being the root of the word “Hebrew”. Eber means to cross over, transition, to go from one side to the other.

In the north of the mountain upon which the Watchers came down, a river flows which is called “Descender”, that is “Yarden”, or the Jordan river.

The Jordan borders Israel on the East and flows into the Dead Sea. This is the river which was crossed by the Israelites who came into the land which was promised them by Elohim.

Those people of the “crossing over” (Hebrews) were chosen to pass over the “descending” (Jordan), which was itself water.

In this people was kept alive the Messianic promise a Deliverer who would remove corruption from the Earth.

Though fallen angels had both corrupted spirit and flesh, He would build a bridge to His redeemed so that they might cross over from corruption into Life.

Water baptism is not the end of the process though. As it is said here:

“Yahuchanan (John) spoke, saying to all, “I indeed immerse you in water.

But One mightier than I is coming whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose.

He will immerse you in the Sacred Spirit and fire.

His winnowing fan is in His hand and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor and gather the wheat into His barn.

But the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.””

– Luke 3:16,17

Water baptism is an act of faith, doing so shows trust in that even though one still inhabits the corrupted world, they trust on a promise and enter into new life which is not outwardly evident yet, but is yet to be fully manifested at a future time. As Noah entered the ark with his family and passed through the flood, not to be delivered into present perfection, but to trust in Elohim for a future.

Baptism of fire is the end solution.

While water washes the outer surface of anything, fire purifies a thing thoroughly throughout. As water washed off the physical corruption from Earth, there yet comes a time when the whole creation will be purged entirely by fire and both corruption of physical and spiritual natures will cease to be.

“But the day of the Master will come as a thief in the night in which the skies will pass away with a great noise and the elements will melt with fervent heat.

Both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner ought you to be in sacred conduct and piety, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of Yahuwah, because of which the skies will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?”

– 2 Peter 3:10-12

Fire is shown to be a spiritual influence, the literal substance of spirit even.

“…Who walks on the wings of the wind, Who makes His messengers spirits, His ministers a flame of fire.”

– Psalm 104:4

As Earth and earthly physical influences are “watery”

“…by the word of Yahuwah the skies were of old and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world then existing perished, being flooded with water”

– 2 Peter 3:5,6

It is within the context of the reasons for baptism which explains why John conducted his water bapstisms in the Jordan and why Yahushua Himself was baptized there.

The Jordan is a physical representation of both the source of the problem and the solution. Followers of Yahushua are also spoken of “crossing over” the Jordan in order to be healed by Him.

Yahushua is the bridge which we cross over, rescuing souls from mortality and spirits from eternal death, passing over all impurity which is to be given over to such destruction.

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The Spirit of the “Liliths” in Modern Society

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“You’ve come a long way, baby.” The marketing slogan of Virginia Slims, boasted on behalf of “liberated women” in 1968.

The concept of a societal shift into a new era where women were supposedly, finally breaking free of an ages old, male dominated world structure seemed to many women to herald a brighter future, and caused many old fashioned men to long for the “good old days”.

As it has panned out, instead of liberated, women might actually find themselves enslaved to the same old “by the sweat of your brow” misfortune which has always been the lot of men, minus any real elevation of respect, since now more than ever, women are viewed objects of lust.

That is normally the payout of Satan’s promises… he dangles a carrot before some desiring eyes, but when the object is obtained, it seems to always come with all the side effects and none of the cure.

Satan has understood the concept of “the grass is always greener on the other side” for thousands of years, and has always utilized that philosophy against every faction of human society, and even against his own kind… other angels who took the bait and followed his example.

The feminist agenda, like any deceptive philosophy which has shaped what has become the modern structure of society, has beginnings grounded in a precedent set in the early years of human history.

There’s nothing new under the sun… Satan simply knows how to recycle and repackage old news like it was today’s headlines. He re-gifts… and the gifts are usually less appealing than fruitcake.

The beginning of objectification of women is blame that can be easily put on the rebel Watchers.

This class of angels who rebelled in the act of taking human partners and fathering children, were essentially corrupted through lust and for the first time in history, human women began to be a commodity based only on their sexual appeal.

The Watchers, however, had entered into a world which was already in the control of Satan and his rebels.

The atmosphere of Earth was primed for temptation to sin, and certainly Satan recognized the immense value to his goals that could be gained by encouraging the sin of the Watchers to take place.

They brought to the playing field what Satan’s forces lacked… a means to Physically enter in upon the human scene, and change it on an organic level.

The leader of the rebel Watchers, Shemyhaza proposed, what no doubt had already been a temptation in the Watchers thoughts for a while, that they each choose wives, live with them and have children.

She demands he reveal to her the true name of Elohim in exchange for the union, which he at first refuses to do, and then finally agrees.

The picture that we get, then, is the first occasion of a woman manipulating herself into a place of power with someone who would, under normal circumstance, not be subject to her control.

This description of events being essentially the gist of what actually took place would explain the basis of the reason for Ishatar becoming so predominant over her husband in the pagan societies following the flood.

This same legend takes a sudden odd turn at the end which, interestingly reveals the power of her manipulation, not only on one rebel angel, but on the direction world history.

The story ends with Ishatar using the very Name of Elohim which Shemyhaza revealed to her to enable her to fly, and by pronouncing it, escapes his affections and becomes immortalized as a star in the Heavens for retaining her virtue.

This ending to the tale flies in the face of every description of who Ishatar was to the cultures who deified her… far from being a virginal figure of untouchable chastity, she is synonymous everywhere with feminine sexuality taken to a domineering level.

The romanticized fable of the virginal Ishatar has become the prototype of the Catholic Mary, however… even to the point of retaining the title “Queen of Heaven”.

Ishatar then, was the original “women’s Liberation” activist.

Much like her modern age followers… she did not better her position ultimately, as we will see… instead she became the posterchild sex object.

Deified for her position as a consort to a “god” who became faceless and nameless over the years, and as a reproductive tool.

The legend of Lilith has retained some heavily idolized fame in the modern world.

When people generally think of Lilith, they might first recall a story of Adam’s original wife who refused to behave subordinately to him, and instead chose to join herself to a fallen angel (usually cited to be Lucifer) and produced a horde of demon children.

This tale bears no supportable resemblance to anything which literally took place… however, there is a thinly veiled element of veracity which can be traced to reveal the real identity of “Lilith” and where such a story sprang from.

There is not even a scant mention anywhere in scripture or ancient history to support the notion of Adam having had a first wife who was created directly from the Earth as he was, and who was eventually replaced by the more suitable Eve. This concoction is the product of a publication in the middle ages by an anonymous author.

A mention of Lilith occurs in scriptural canon, in Isaiah 34:14, where the word “liylith” is translated as “screech owl” or “night creature”…

“The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the jackals and the wild goat shall bleat to its companion. Also the night creature (liylith) shall rest there and find for herself a place of rest. “

– Isaiah 34:14

Strong’s Concordance gives the definition for liylith as “a night specter”, though if the word is followed back through it’s etymology, one will come to references to wreaths and twining or twisting… followed back even farther, the root comes down to the word – “lawah” which means to join to, to unite with, to cleave.

We then, should be starkly reminded how the marital union between two individuals are described in scripture… as a cleaving, a uniting, a joining.

Those very terms are applied also in respect to those women who married angelic husbands.

Even the symbolism of the wreath, which is referenced in the definition of “liylith” is recognized in pagan practice as a symbol which memorializes fertility deities.

“Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”

– Genesis 2:24

It is fitting that the name Lilith should found to correlate to a joining, a unifying or a cleaving to… the earliest records which are extant of this name call Lilith a handmaid or sacred prostitute in the service of Ishatar.

Further recorded mentions by Assyrian sources do not reflect a Person, but rather a type of entity with the word “lilitu”.

This was a sexually predatory female entity which killed children, brought disease and was associated with storms. This same theme runs parallel to Greek traditions of sirens, who are described much the same way.

Sirens were regarded in Greek mythology as deadly female beings who dwelt either in water or near it… luring men who sailed those waters to their death by singing a song which they could not resist.

The men would then seek to follow the sound, only to be drowned in the waters.

Nymphs, naiads and dryads were similar categories of feminine entities who preyed on men through lust dwelling in fresh water streams, pools or trees which were fed from haunted water sources.

This is the answer which 1 Enoch gives as to the origin of all such beings…

“And Uriel said to me: ‘Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons ‘as gods’,

(here shall they stand,) till ‘the day of’ the great judgment in which they shall be judged till they are made an end of.

And the women also of the angels who went astray shall become sirens.’ “

– 1 Enoch 19

It is most reasonable that the legend of an individual named Lilith has grown out of a general term applied to those women who “joined” themselves to the rebel Watchers, and that it was never in reference to a single female entity.

The wives (and concubines) of the Watchers would naturally fall in line behind Ishatar, who would be the “first lady” so to speak, her husband being the foremost authority amongst the rebels.

Ishatar has not lost any relevance in this modern age, which indicates the greater magnitude of importance she came to represent, above even the majority of the fallen angels… particularly their leader.

Besides the Catholic Church, who proudly displays her as the supposed mother of Messiah, she is a favorite corporate logo and a beloved symbol of “liberty” in the United States.

She is emblazoned on the sides of Starbucks coffee cups and her figure is the first image you will see when you watch any Columbia film production.

Her presence as a force, behind a misguided concept of feminism, still galvanizes young girls to assert their “individuality”, only to be dragged into an ever worsening scene of female objectification and degradation.

It is no accident that a “lilith” philosophy reigns in the same age as rampant unwed pregnancies and abortion…

she has always been the reigning queen of deviant behavior and infanticide since the far, ancient past until this day.

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Catholic Church has Some Explaining to Do

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Christianity has caught a real bad rap because of the Catholic church. We shouldn’t base our views on the bible on the actions of the Catholic Church. Sadly many people do associate the teachings of the scripture with the Catholic Church.

Is the Catholic Church really a bible based religion now? If it’s not, can we base our views of YHWH, and Yahushua on it? Let’s take a look and see weather or not the Catholic church is based on the bible…..

Exodus 28:41 – “You shall put them on Aaron your brother and on his sons with him; and you shall anoint them and ordain them and consecrate them, that they may serve Me as priests.”

It seems that scripture suggests that one must be a Levite, and a son of Aaron to be a priest. The first flaw I see in the Catholic Church is the fact that they have priests. Do these men claim to be descended from Aaron? No, they do not. So why do they call themselves priests then? Under what authority do they get the privilege to be supposed priests of YHWH?

Deuteronomy 4:16 – “so that you do not act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female”

Mosaic law is clear concerning making images of deities, even YHWH. What human hand could even capture the glory of YHWH in a painting or statue? Solomon’s Temple only had images of angels, palm trees, and pomegranates. Why does the Catholic Church violate the rule against making images of the Creator?

Numbers 6:17 – “So they shall invoke My name (YHWH) on the sons of Israel, and I then will bless them.”

Psalms 86:12 – “I will give thanks to You, O YHWH my Elohim, with all my heart, And will glorify Your Name forever.”

Here is what the Catholic Church says about using His Name…

“Bishop Arthur J. Serratelli of Paterson, N.J., chairman of the U.S. bishops’ Committee on Divine Worship, announced the new Vatican “directives on the use of ‘the name of God’ in the sacred liturgy” in an Aug. 8 letter to his fellow bishops.” “Avoiding pronouncing the Tetragrammaton of the name of God on the part of the church has therefore its own grounds,” the letter said. “Apart from a motive of a purely philological order, there is also that of remaining faithful to the church’s tradition, from the beginning, that the sacred Tetragrammaton was never pronounced in the Christian context nor translated into any of the languages into which the Bible was translated.”

These decrees go against what scripture teaches.. consider Exodus 3:15, Exodus 9:16, Exodus 33:19, Leviticus 19:12, Numbers 6:17, 1 Kings 5:5, Psalms 86:12, Psalms 91:14, Psalms 103:1, Isaiah 42:8, Isaiah 52:6, Jeremiah 12:16, Jeremiah 15:16, Jeremiah 16:21, Jeremiah 23:27, Ezekiel 39:7, Zechariah 13:9, Matthew 24:9 , John 10:25, John 16:24, and Acts 4:12…

This is all just the very tip of the iceberg. We could go on for days with subjects like pagan holidays being incorporated into the Catholic Church, or the great wealth of the Vatican that could feed many starving Catholics.

The scripture warns about hoarding wealth. I would like for people to know that the RCC is not a bible based religion, and you shouldn’t base your ideas of Elohim, and the scripture on this establishment.

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