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When is the Gog-Magog War?

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The nearly universal teaching seems to place this war at the beginning or in the midst or at the end of the tribulation. It is what has spurred so many Christians to closely link the present political state of Israel with both the redeemed people of Israel and with the days prior to Yahushua’s return.

I am not so sure we’ve ever been clearly told in scripture, though, that this war occurs at any of those times or that it is in any way linked at all to the present political state of Israel.

We’ve revisited the fact several times that the present state of Israel, its government, boundaries and laws are established by the same people who initiated the holocaust. It should seem strange that a government as willing to partake in false flag terrorism as any other should be suddenly defended by YHWH, who condemns just that kind of tyranny and declares the fate of those partaking in it an unpleasant one.

So, what does the bible say about the timing of Gog and Magog. Ezekiel 38,39 might not clear that answer up, by itself, but lets consider this section:

“Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land….
Eze 38:14 ¶ Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]?”

Dwell safely? Is that what is going on for the people in Israel today? Was that going on before the present troubles there? Has that happened at any length since the establishment of the present Israeli state?

As they always say, take things in context, so backing up to Ezekiel 37, we find out how the vision he received from YHWH began…

“1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 and caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
7 ¶ So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 ¶ Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 and shall put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. – Ezekiel 37: 1-14″

Nearly all mainstream clergy have been teaching consistently that this is a metaphorical vision of the regathering of Israel. It is that, but why discount the obvious literal meaning? This is a vision of resurrection. Why would it not be the literal resurrection of the redeemed? Why would this not be a consistent foretelling of a regathering which takes place after the raising of the saved dead, whom we know will inhabit His Holy City in the future? Revelation would seem to agree with that…

“4 ¶ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: Dan. 7.9, 22 and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 ¶ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, Ezek. 38.1-16 to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” – Revelation 20:4-10

It is there, in the 20th chapter of Revelation, that an exact time frame for a Gog and Magog war is mentioned, and that time is stated plainly as being “when the thousand years are expired”…after the Millennial reign.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses: As Subtle as a Red Serpent

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Everyone is familiar with the aggravating visits of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It’s come to be somewhat of a stereotypical joke… how to be rid of them or hide from them when they come knocking on the door in their polished apparel and stacks of pamphlets in hand.

Perhaps it is a much better policy to attempt to witness truth to them instead of avoiding the visit, but many who attempted this have also known how difficult a task that can be.

For all the well-known labels this fringe denomination has gathered to itself… few people outside of the Jehovah’s Witness faith, and perhaps even not a majority within it, have any really good idea what their religion is about or from where it came.

For those who have been disillusioned with mainstream Christianity (and rightly so)… the teachings of JW can sound incredibly attractive and reasonable.

In the recent years, because of the notable distrust many believers have developed toward Church-style Christianity, the doctrines of Jehovah’s Witnesses have made somewhat of a come back.

With their negative stance towards allegiance to earthly government, a refusal to participate in Christianized pagan holidays, and their disdain for involvement in military affairs… this religion can seem to be the answer to all things that are wrong with both mainstream Christian doctrine and a corrupt government.

For this reason, it’s good to be armed with some basic understanding of the deeper roots of this denomination so that we are never tempted to confusion when presented with it by one of those door to door visits.

Jehovah’s Witnesses have their beginning in the “Bible Student movement” founded by Charles Taze Russell in the late 1800’s, the literature of which was published through Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society.

Charles Russell 1905

The movement was set in motion by Russell’s insistence that the Christianity of the day was fundamentally corrupt and restoration of a more true-to-scripture faith was in order.

None of these publicly given reasons were untrue, or without merit on their own, yet for all the insistence on a truer Christian doctrine, those which came out of Russel’s movement, as well as the Jehovah’s Witnesses after his death, are unscriptural to the point of having a translated version of the scriptures which exist for the sole purpose of supporting them.

The doctrines of the sect in this day are set down by a governing body which has an authority that is put on a near-equal level with the scriptures themselves… a practice which is extremely reminiscent of Catholicism, which elevates papal decisions and church tradition above the letter of scripture.

The Watch Tower society maintains that all doctrinal change is the result of clearer revelation of scripture… revelation which they are open to receiving, by their own admission, through angels as well as Elohim Himself.

Lay people of the faith are not permitted to question or dispute the “revelations” given to the governing body, and they are routinely discouraged from independent research or study of scripture which might lead to questioning the doctrine.

Watch Tower with Masonic Cross

It is well known that JW do not believe that Yahushua is Elohim, equal and One with the Father…

it is much less known that they ascribe to Him a synonymous identity with both Michael the archangel…

and with Abaddon or Apollyon, the destroyer “angel of the bottomless pit” mentioned in Revelation.

There’s scarcely any need, I dare say, to point out the unbelievable level of blasphemy in the later comparison. It is, in fact, a degree of blasphemy which is dangerously bordering on, if not completely immersed in, the unpardonable sin. It is also a connection which finds itself a well established precedent in Luciferian belief systems where Messiah is purposely confused with Lucifer.

It is less surprising that we would find a hint of Luciferian doctrine in the teachings of the JW when it is discovered that the organization itself has received much funding and support from the Rothschilds, a leading Luciferian globalist family, through the foundation known as “B’nai B’rith”, a group disguised as a charitable Jewish fraternity.

B'nai B'rith Certificate

It is, in reality, no more than a sect of Freemason-flavored Illuminism dressed up as a Jewsih society. Note the all-seeing masonic “eye of Ra”, phoenix depiction, and multitudes of other occult symbolism on B’nai B’rith certificate above.

In the 1920’s, as eugenics were becoming more in fashion, The Watch Tower Society published very blunt statements of bigotry against minority groups, claiming a biblical foundation for such statements like this one:

“It is generally believed that the curse which Noah pronounced upon Canaan was the origin of the black race.

Certain it is that when Noah said, “Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren,” he pictured the future of the Colored race.

They have been and are a race of servants, but now in the dawn of the twentieth century, we are all coming to see this matter of service in its true light and to find that the only real joy in life is in serving others; not bossing them.

There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world.”

(The Golden Age, July 24, 1929, p. 702)

The only version of scripture which Jehovah’s Witnesses use is known as the “New World Translation”. From the start, it’s hard to ignore the innuendo of such a name. The “New World”, and everything which bears a title referring to it, has been single-mindedly established for the long term goal of ultimate globalist rule. Fitting then, if this version of the scriptures should reflect that same agenda.

The New World Translation was published in 1961 by the Watch Tower society by way of an anonymous committee of translators.Nothing is known about who this group was comprised of other than they were reportedly of multinational origins.

The members refused for their names and identities to be made public, insisting that the reason was to avoid being credited with the translation, since that credit belonged to “Jehovah” alone. On the contrary side, neither can anyone verify the honesty, integrity or expertise of anyone who worked on this translation and it is fair to say that while they might go uncredited with the results, they also go uncriticized.

Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Bible Student movement from where JW derive is a person who is highly protected in mainstream research sources from too much scrutiny.

If one is to do a cursory, surface level search of this man’s history it is likely to show nothing which is not completely benign and all attestations to the contrary are quickly buried. He is simply noted as a “Restoration” minister from PA.

It is worth noting that Russell was quite eclectic in his spiritual tastes as a young man and immersed himself in a number of eastern religious systems like Hinduism, Buddhism and Taoism.

This isn’t surprising since the form of “Christianity” which Russel eventually founded has a distinct connectedness with Rosicrucianism, a Christianized Occult belief system which grew out of Eastern and Mideastern philosophy.

Russel apparently had no qualms about ignoring the warnings of date setting which are mentioned in the gospels regarding the return of Messiah.

After a predicted date of return and rapture was set and met with failure, he decided that Messiah had indeed returned in 1874, but did so invisibly, and had commenced ruling from the heavens since then.

He further predicted that after a period which he called the “Gentile Times”, Messiah would come visibly and rule on Earth in 1914 – interestingly coinciding with the start of WW I.

This prediction is unlikely to be mere coincidence… Albert Pike, the man famous for having written the script on the three world wars before a single one of them occurred, was a known Illuminist Freemason, and it is not surprising that anyone of high affiliation with such societies would be well aware of the same plans.  Albert Pike and the Three World Wars

Charles Russell was an outspoken Zionist in the Rothschild, political tradition. The in-gathering of Jews into Palestine was a central component of his beliefs and the teachings which he zealously spread at the same time as the Rothschilds were formulating the resettlement.

It was Russell’s message to the Jews that they need not bother with conversion to Christianity, being already chosen by Jehovah, they need only resettle in their land and receive their blessing.

Without a doubt, this Zionist movement was one of the greatest disservices to Jewish people that ever came out of anything calling itself “Christian”.

Charles Russell's "Chart of the Ages"

You will find any mention of Russell being affiliated with Freemasonry to be hotly denied by JW and the Watch Tower society, and even outright denials of Freemasons that he ever was one of them, but records still exist (at least for now) which name him as being a member of a Templar Mason, York Rite lodge in Allegheny Pennsylvania.

He was known for utilizing the masonic pyramid in his publications as well as the “winged disc” of famed, ancient occult symbolism. His own grave site is adorned with a large masonic stone pyramid monument. He made a public statement on his affiliations with Masons, denying that he had any… sort of.

“Although I have never been a Mason … Something I do seems to be the same as Masons do, I don’t know what it is; but they often give me all kinds of grips and I give them back, then I tell them I don’t know anything about it except just a few grips that have come to me naturally..”

– Special 1913 Convention Report of the Internal Bible Students, “The Temple of Gods” pages 120-127.

Charles Russell's grave marker monument

Anyone who knows the fundamentals of the use of secret handshakes and hand signs by the Masons, understand that its a rather complex, subtle system, not even always visible, as in the case of handshakes, but only felt by where and how pressure is placed on the receiving hand. Nothing of the sort would “come naturally” to anyone never made aware of how to return them.

It should certainly be noted that the surname of Pastor Russell is not an unfamiliar one in the world of globalists, Illuminsits and Satanists.

One of a number of families who’s surnames crop up again and again throughout history attached to secret societies, global influence and royalty… Russell’s family belongs to one of the so-called “elite” branches.

The family name itself gave homage to the notion of the “red line”… the red serpent or rose line which is traditionally understood to be a reference to the serpent or dragon nephil bloodline.

Charles Russell’s uncle, William Huntington Russell, is in fact, the co-founder of the infamous Yale society known as “Skull and Bones”. The original founder and trustee of Yale college was also a Russell.

The peculiar occult interests of Russell were not entirely obscured from his followers and he recommended some reading which is a view into his questionable philosophies.

A book entitled “Angels and Women”, which he supervised the editing of, was dictated to a spiritual medium by a fallen angel.

He insisted that the contents were still of benefit to others because there were biblical truths contained in it, in spite of the fact the source of the material was an evil entity.

Russell’s successor, Joseph Franklin Rutherford, only pushed the boundaries of acceptable doctrine further, revising many of those left by his predecessor.

In spite of Russell’s strong Zionist persuasion, Rutherford eventually veered from that so far as to become pointedly anti-Semitic. He began the publication “Golden Age Magazine”… the name of which will throw up a red flag for anyone familiar with occult lingo. The name derives directly out of the Crowley styled Thelemic philosophy “Secret Teachings of the Golden Dawn”. The term “Golden Dawn” itself referring to the arrival of a New World Order.

Clayton J. Woodworth, editor of The Golden Age, writing a commentary on Revelation for the publication called The Finished Mystery, claimed to have been the victim of demonic influence during the process.

“I came directly under the influence of evil spirits, so much so that for three days I was as completely under demonical control as was Mrs. Eddy when she wrote “Science and Health.”

– Thirteenth Souvenir Convention Report, p. 274

Rutherford continued Russell’s disturbing reliance upon spiritual mediums and demonic messages to give “good” information, claiming that “honest demons” were helping humanity come closer to the “secret of life”.

The name of the Watch Tower Society itself is not original to Jehovah’s Witnesses. The term is well known in Hermetic occult practices or so-called “Enochian” magic as a station of one of four spirit guardians… namely Watchers, over one of the four cardinal directions. These “Watchtowers” are invoked during ritual magic and coincide to certain stars; Fomalhaut, Aldebaran, Regulus and Antares.

The connectedness that the Jehovah’s Witness faith, its founder and its history have to occult practices, Illuminism, globalist goals and a New World Order agenda, should not be ignored.

For those who are already part of this faith, it should surely be questioned as to why questioning itself, or researching for ones self, is so very discouraged. That such a stance shares a parallel with the general long and convoluted trend towards a “Brave New World” should be enough to cause concern. For those who might be persuaded to JW beliefs… now you have some things to think on.

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Two Sons

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Yahushua sat down to dinner with sinners and tax collectors.

The self-righteous of the day protested, but of course we know He came for just such a thing, to offer up a way of healing and a way of reconciliation – not for those who felt they ‘had it all together’, but for those who were, and knew they were, the worst of the lot and in need of some remedy.

Some stood ready to execute the full penalty of the Law on a woman who had been immersed in sexual sin… but Yahushua reminded those willing to dole out justice without mercy that they too had sins, and instead of stoning her, He offered her hope of forgiveness.

Ninevah would have been consumed in the wrath of YHWH. but for their repentance and His mercy, which greatly displeased Jonah, the messenger of their doom.

Repeatedly we see the demonstration of meaning in the words “I will have mercy and not sacrifice”. Repeatedly He shows that it is His mission to restore the un-restorable, to heal the hopelessly broken and to even turn back the irreversible sting of death, usually to the indignation and confounding of individuals who see themselves as much more worthy of His notice.

Unfortunately people do not often think the way He thinks or value what He values, and oftentimes it is believers who become the least willing to sit with the tax collectors or pardon the adulteress, or rejoice over the repentance of those who have been guilty of great wrongs.

What I read of His ability to have love for His creation is really something that goes beyond almost all comprehension. He says, of all things… to love your enemies.

That’s not easy to do, let’s not fool ourselves… it is one thing to say “i love everyone”, but it’s a completely different concept put into action. Not just an idea or a feeling, ‘loving an enemy’ means actively participating in good will towards them… praying for them, earnestly desiring their salvation and well being.

How easy is it to visit murderers on death row and try to bring them, not just a sermon, but an obvious display of compassion and concern? Now imagine trying to visit one in prison who had murdered your own child and show them compassion and concern.

We must be careful where we begin to justify withholding mercy, because as long as this age endures, He has set no limitations upon the degree of evil He is willing to forgive… or the degree of sinner He is willing to love.

What degree of sinner would be justified in His sight if there was a limit?

He is the standard of perfection for which we are to strive… we won’t be perfect in this age of the reign of sin, but all the same, we have no excuse for not making it our goal.

If our enemies are to be loved by us, and His enemies are loved by Him, being the standard of that perfect mercy…there must be no fallen being which is not included in that command, up to and including Satan.

If it comes as a horrific shock to hear that any believer should have “love” for the devil – then that shock comes from a place of having heard the attitude set forth throughout churches and by pastors of justified malice towards, at least, That enemy… being the most wicked enemy anyone has.

The attitude of malice towards that greatest of enemies is not present in scripture.

We are certainly warned to not invite him into our lives… to not model ourselves after him, to not take part in his temptations or fall under his control – but we are never commanded to despise him. Even Michael knew better than to use venomous words against him.

I do not predict that the Devil will ever repent… but that is a complete guess on my part based on the best evidence I have, and I don’t have all the evidence there is to have.

I do know that He created an angel, who later became Satan, and if He cares for sparrows, He has certainly cared for him. Even Satan is worth my hopes that he should find repentance, however small that possibility is.

As for fallen angels in general, I hold to a belief of the possibility of their repentance that does not go down well with most believers.

I’ve come up against a multitude of arguments persuading against it, and yet have never encountered an argument from a scriptural source which could utterly negate the possibility.

At best, there is the opinion that it’s just not even discussed in scripture, and while that’s true in the sense of a direct address of the subject… I’ve at least found better evidence of it addressed in parable and theme than any similar evidence to the contrary.

A really interesting section of Luke draws my attention on the matter… well known as the parable of the prodigal son:

“A certain man had two sons. And the younger of them said to his father, ‘Father, give me the portion of goods that falls to me.’ So he divided to them his livelihood. And not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, journeyed to a far country, and there wasted his possessions with prodigal living.

But when he had spent all, there arose a severe famine in that land and he began to be in want. Then he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. And he would gladly have filled his stomach with the pods that the swine ate, and no one gave him anything.

But when he came to himself, he said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have bread enough and to spare and I perish with hunger! I will arise and go to my father and will say to him, “Father, I have sinned against the sky and before you and I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants.”‘

And he arose and came to his father. But when he was still a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, and ran and fell on his neck and kissed him. And the son said to him, ‘Father, I have sinned against the sky and in your sight and am no longer worthy to be called your son.’ But the father said to his servants, ‘Bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. And bring the fatted calf here and kill it, and let us eat and be merry, for this my son was dead and is alive again. He was lost and is found.’ And they began to be merry.

Now his older son was in the field. And as he came and drew near to the house, he heard music and dancing. So he called one of the servants and asked what these things meant. And he said to him, ‘Your brother has come, and because he has received him safe and sound, your father has killed the fatted calf.’

But he was angry and would not go in. Therefore his father came out and pleaded with him. So he answered and said to his father, ‘Lo, these many years I have been serving you. I never transgressed your commandment at any time and yet you never gave me a young goat that I might make merry with my friends. But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’

And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me and all that I have is yours. It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.'”
– Luke 15:11-32

We might be inclined to think of the younger and older sons in terms of chronology of origin, perhaps putting angels in the place of the older sibling… but this is a parable concerning a right standing relationship to the Father – and there’s no sense speculating that holy angels are irritable towards humanity’s repentance, as obviously it states that there is great rejoicing by them when one sinner repents.

Other than holy angels, all other beings are in need of reconciliation to obtain a right standing with Him, and that reconciliation was no doubt offered first and foremost to mankind.

Who could have been said to have taken a long journey into a “foreign country”, carrying with them the inheritance of the Father which fell to them and squandering it on sinful living?

Fallen angels have done this, and maybe it most starkly resembles the circumstances surrounding the Watchers’ rebellion. Now far removed from their native habitation, fallen angels exist as degraded, filthy and desperate sinners… figuratively wallowing in the pig pen, and spiritually starving for lack of the relationship to their Father in which they were created to thrive.

If one should “come to their senses” and repent, it is not difficult to see how the expectation of their best hope might be to return to their Father, not with the status of a son, but a hired servant.

The older sibling can then be likened to mankind… for whom the promise of a Savior has been established since the first man fell.

The repentance of a fallen angel would work on a different dynamic than a human… it would be comparable to the faith of the Canaanite woman who begged Yahushua to free her daughter from demonic possession:

“And behold, a woman of Kena’an came from that region and cried out to Him saying, “Have mercy on me, O Master, Son of Dawiyd! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.” But He answered her not a word. And His disciples came and urged Him saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.” But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisra’el.”

Then she came and worshiped Him saying “Master, help me!” But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.” And she said, “Yes, Master, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.” Then Yahushua answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
– Matthew 15: 22-28

Indeed… the food of the table belongs to the children, yet the dogs are not denied the crumbs.


Only taking into account the reception that the prospect of angelic redemption receives in the Christian community, I am starkly reminded of that older sibling’s smug dismissal of the idea that this “unworthy” brother of his should, not only be welcomed back to the household, but welcomed back with great relief and much rejoicing by his Father.

Unfortunately, just like that older son, many allow their status as redeemed to be a point of personal pride to them. It is hard within the sin nature to divorce oneself from that urge of ego to take credit for one’s own salvation – the very same problem which begets believers who lean towards a “salvation by works” error.

If then, knowing the truth… that not one of us are worthy of the mercy He shows us, that there is nothing anyone could have done for themselves or for Him by their own power to acquire redemption… how differently ought we to regard the lost – of any persuasion – knowing that if not for His grace, we ourselves would be no better off?

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The Breaking of Ouroborus

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There is a theme at our social network site, reflected in the title and a number of images used throughout, which refer to time or a circular continuity thereof.

The background theme shows a Nautilus spiral, the logo which has a backdrop of a ring can be viewed in its original form on my own profile is shattered by a bolt of lightning in one particular area… representing the idea of time literally being “no longer”. All of this has a certain point of reference which i will explain here.

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In Ecclesiastes an interesting observation is made which probably doesn’t often get mulled over in terms of being a literal statement.

“That which has been is what will be, that which is done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which it may be said, “See? This is new”? It has already been in ancient times before us. There is no remembrance of former things nor will there be any remembrance of things that are to come by those who will come after. ”
– Ecclesiastes 1:9-11

This is a very enigmatic statement which is understood in a mostly figurative way by readers now, in pertaining to the shortsightedness of humankind and their tendency to repeat the mistakes of the past… but it doesn’t really read as a figurative statement, does it? It has already been in ancient times before us… there is no remembrance of former things.

Satan is no simple-minded creature. Iv’e often heard it asked among believers how Satan continues to war against the Almighty knowing full well that he can not win… or at least having every reason to know full well that he can not.

It begs an answer… because he is not without great intellect, and because he has had enough experience in knowing the nature of his Creator to understand the magnitude of the power he is up against, there must be a plausible reason that he has some hope (a deluded hope though it might be) of achieving his goals to usurp His position.

What Satan realizes, and has realized since the moment that YHWH cursed him and predicted his downfall, is that there is an inevitable finale to his existence and the only way to have a chance of bypassing this finale was to somehow circumvent the process of time entirely.

You might be tempted to automatically say “That’s impossible… the Creator would not let him do that.”, but we can’t dismiss the fact that the Creator has allowed the freedom of his creation to choose to act upon good or evil in whatever their capacity is to do so.

This does not mean that such a measure… or any measure, no matter how grand, can ultimately defeat His will… but sinful beings can try.

Time travel and dimensional travel was, not so long ago, an entirely fringe notion to most people… the stuff of science fiction. It is now receiving public attention by such esteemed scientists as Steven Hawking, who brought up the CERN LHC as an example of how real time travel might be achieved.

I would suggest that the LHC was built precisely for this purpose however, and not a foremost effort to locate the Higgs Boson.

Time travel has been achieved decades ago in the aftermath of an incident with a ship called the USS Eldridge and the Philadelphia experiment.

In the process of what was done to further experiments like this, it was found that a loop was created between the dates of exit and re-entry which linked those time frames together like a circuit, until the equipment which perpetuated the experiments was destroyed.

It was a small time circuit of only about 40 years… but this leaves us with the knowledge that such a loop could be created between two points of time that were vast millennia apart.

A massive time loop which connects the introduction of sin to creation with the last viable moments of Satan’s reign of freedom on Earth in a cycle which repeats itself (endlessly, Satan would hope) is not as crazy of an idea as it might seem.

It is a concept represented over and over again from antiquity to this day, and a symbolism which is held in high importance by the Luciferian elite.

Circular time, which rebirths itself at the end of it’s turning, is observable in the real phenomenon of the precession of the equinoxes, in which the sun rises throughout the ages at precise zodiacal points at the vernal equinox, preceding slowly in a circle as if it were the hand of a giant, cosmic clock.

Upon the knowledge of this celestial activity are such ancient time keepers as the famed Mayan calendar established.

The repetitive time cycle is represented by an apt symbol… the Ouroborus. This symbol shows a serpent or dragon which is coiled in on itself in a circle and is devouring its tail.

Satan, as we know… is the serpent or the dragon, and this symbol is a reference to what he has to do with time and the repetition of it.

It is known as the symbol of eternal return and it and a similar representation of the same, a spiral, can be noted as persisting to this day in that strange, hieroglyphic language of symbols that appear as common logos for companies, institutions and agencies which the elite control.

Ouroborus : Theodoros Pelecanos

An Egyptian description of what Ouroborus is was written on a sarcophagus chamber like this… “A serpent is entwined by a serpent. The male serpent is bitten by the female serpent, the female serpent is bitten by the male serpent, Heaven is enchanted, earth is enchanted.”

This is the demented hope of fallen angels… that they will ensure the continuation of time in a loop which bypasses all accountability for their actions and at the same time keeps the Earthly domain, which was sold under sin, in their possession.

What they did not account for was Messiah and His intervention in the manner which He did, doing what had never before been done in His act of sacrifice.

This introduction of a truly New thing by necessity changes the landscape of a time-state which can not in its intended purpose produce utterly new events.

If such a notion as a forced recycling of ages is understood in the magnitude of what it means scripturally… this means that the intervention of Messiah and the end of the age not only mean the redemption of saved individuals from a sinful world and the end of sin… it means the final cessation of time itself as it is now known…the cessation of a corrupted chronology.

The New Heaven and the New Earth would be creations within a new definition of what time means… eternal, never returning to it’s beginning but stretching out in unending progression of perfection.

This is why i look forward to the day when there will be “time no longer”.

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Evolution : The Devil’s Hoax

Posted in 02 : The Truth Is Out There... with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on 05/10/2010 by timenolonger

There are a few different types of evolution. Here, I am addressing Macroevolution – which is the changing of one kind of plant or animal into another kind of plant or animal.

Recently I have come across people who believe, for some reason, that evolution somehow disproves the existence of a Creator. This is clearly wrong for several reasons.

First off, evolution does not address the origins of life.

Atheistic evolutionists place their faith in the never-observed theory of abiogenesis – the theory non-life in certain conditions, given time, can produce life.

Secondly, there are many theists who claim to be Christian that believe in evolution. They call it “biogenesis” – a term coined by Dr. Francis Collins. They believe Elohim guided evolution.

So what is it about evolution then? Why is it dangerous if you can be a Christian and an evolutionist at the same time?

The problem with evolution is that it is a lie.

It is not true, and it is the backbone of the atheist world view. Without evolution atheism can’t stand.

Evolution was used in Nazi Germany to justify the crimes of Adolf Hitler to the German people, and it is used as a tool for racism today. White racists look at the tribal societies in Africa and South America and believe, because of their lack of technology, they are less evolved.

What is curious though, is that evolution is taught as a fact in schools. My tax dollars pay for children to learn the theory of evolution. Not a dime of my money goes to them learning about YHWH.

They teach this theory as if it was a fact. If it was a fact, then brilliant scientists like Dr. Wolfgang Smith, Dr. Fleishmann, and Dr. Ambrose Flemming (to name a few) would not argue it.

The truth is – the theory has many holes, and flaws, and respected scientists know this. Knowing this, they reject the theory. Let me quote Dr. Wolfgang smith…

“A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from the evolutionist camp … moreover, for the most part these ‘experts’ have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblical persuasions, but on scientific grounds, and in some instances, regretfully.”

This is true. Darwin himself didn’t even really buy it – as he is quoted here..

“As by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed. Why do we not find them embedded in the crust of the earth? Why is not all nature in confusion of halfway species instead of being, as we see them, well-defined species?”

There are people who claim the theory of evolution was put together well before Darwin’s time. They claim the theory was put together by the devil, and given to Darwin. I don’t know.

I do know that the theory of evolution would not hold up in court. There isn’t enough evidence. There is however plenty of counter evidence, which I would be glad to provide upon request.

Evolution is useful to the devil on many levels, and that’s why it’s being pushed as fact. Bottom line, if it was such a hard fact – there would be no serious scientific opposition.

1 Enoch 104:10-13 – “idols; for all your lying and all your godlessness issue not in righteousness but in great sin. And now I know this mystery, that sinners will alter and pervert the words of righteousness in many ways, and will speak wicked words, and lie, and practice great deceits, and write books concerning their words.

But when they write down truthfully all my words in their languages, and do not change or minish ought from my words but write them all down truthfully -all that I first testified concerning them.

Then, I know another mystery, that books will be given to the righteous and the wise to become a cause of joy and uprightness and much wisdom.

And to them shall the books be given, and they shall believe in them and rejoice over them, and then shall all the righteous who have learnt therefrom all the paths of uprightness be recompensed.”

“Not one change of species into another is on record … we cannot prove that a single species has been changed.”
(Charles Darwin, My Life & Letters)

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The Validity of 1Enoch

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If you ask most believers to explain what fallen angels are and how they came to be “fallen” they will explain the rebellion of Satan and those who followed him, which took place before man was made.

Few believers will mention a second group of rebels which, nonetheless, have gotten plenty of attention in scripture. The reason that this is such a little known event in spite of its biblical references, is that the book which gives the full account of it has been stricken from the canon.

Imagine if we lacked the book of Exodus and still were left with the many references to the events of Exodus throughout the rest of scripture. Would readers be able to understand the full story of how Hebrews were kept as Egyptian slaves, when this happened and how they were liberated, not to mention the 40 years of wandering in the desert and receiving the law?

How might understanding His law change if there was no full record of how it was received?

The book of Jude is accepted as valid scripture by canon and most believers but it has some things to say that lead to vast amounts of speculation by themselves. Take a look at these verses:

“Now Chanowk (Enoch), the seventh from ‘Adam, prophesied about these men also saying, “Behold! The Master comes with ten thousands of His saints to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are wicked among them of all their wicked deeds that they have committed in a wicked way, and of all the harsh things that irreverent sinners have spoken against Him.” ”
– Jude 14,15

Jude states he is quoting the words of Enoch, the seventh from Adam. It goes without saying that there is a huge gap of time between the lifetimes of Enoch and Jude, so how did Jude come by a prophecy from this ancient forefather of his unless it was written down and well known?

Does it make any sense to assume his contemporary audience would be scratching their heads in confusion, wondering where Jude came by this unknown prophecy allegedly given by Enoch, or does it make sense that Jude’s audience was already familiar with this prophecy and would understand from where he got it?

Compare the above verses in Jude to these verses from the book known as 1 Enoch or the “Ethiopian Enoch” :

“And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
– 1 Enoch 1:9

I think it could not be any clearer that these were the very words Jude repeated in his writings as he himself and his contemporaries had access to, and knew well, the contents of 1 Enoch.

Amazingly i have actually had certain believers argue that “it’s not an exact quote.” Even with not taking into account having been translated from two different languages by separate English speaking individuals, the similarity of these two verses would constitute some incredibly improbable coincidence on multiple levels.

This example might be the most well known Jude-1 Enoch connection but it’s not the only one. Here is another:

“And the angels who did not keep their proper domain but left their own abode He has reserved in eternal chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day”
– Jude 6

It seems to be that for the most part believers take for granted that this is simply speaking about Satan and his followers, the problem with that idea comes from the fact that we all well know how active and present Satan’s influence in the world has been since the fall of man.

He’s hasn’t been bound in chains nor have his minions been. Some like to take this verse to mean figurative chains… meaning that Satan and his cohorts are “spiritually” under bondage… very interesting irony if you think about it carefully… Satan and his minions Are spirits, as the nature of angels are, so to bind one spiritually is not very figurative at all.

1 Enoch describes a certain group of angels, however, who were literally bound in fetters and contained in prison cells under the earth for sins which were different from those of the first rebellion by Satan and his followers:

“And the Lord said unto Michael: ‘Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgment and of their consummation, till the judgment that is for ever and ever is consummated.”
– 1 Enoch 9:11,12

Immediately following verse 6 in Jude which deals with the angels who were bound in chains, a comparison is made between this subject and the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah.

“as Sedom and Amorah and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example suffering the vengeance of eternal fire”
– Jude 7

…And by referring back to 9:11,12 in 1 Enoch it’s clear why such a comparison is made. “‘Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves”
The sin for which these angels were bound was sexual immorality.

They took wives from among humans and had children by them. This is both a violation of His law against unlike kinds procreating and a violation of the nature of angelic beings, as no female angels were formed and they were not made to procreate.

Jude is, by far, not the only place references to the events described in 1 Enoch can be found. Some are more clear and some less due to a pointed attempt to translate out some of the implications of connectedness to this book.

One pretty clear reference can be found in Genesis 6.

“Now it came to pass when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them that the sons of the ‘Elohiym saw the daughters of men were beautiful and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. ”
– Genesis 6:1,2

“There were nephilim on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of the ‘Elohiym came in to the daughters of men and they bore to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown”
– Genesis 6:4

The word “nephilim” often rendered “giants” does not actually mean giant… though the connection between nephilim and giant stature is recorded elsewhere, particularly in Numbers.

Nephilim is sometimes translated as “fallen” though it is perhaps better translated as “a feller” in the sense of something or someone who strikes down others in violence. Interestingly, it is also connected with a premature or miscarried baby.

The term “sons of the Elohim” or “sons of God” is understood by many believers to refer to men who are faithful followers of YHWH. This is not at all the meaning of this phrase. The phrase has nothing technically to do with morality, but rather of origin.

A being who has no father other than their Creator is a Son of Elohim. Adam is called a son of Elohim because he was directly created by Him, angels are sons of Elohim because they were directly created by Him, Yahushua is called The Son of Elohim, having no mortal father and being unique in that He is the only Begotten (born of flesh by the Will of the Holy Spirit) son of Elohim.

Yahushua gives men the Power to become sons of Elohim in that they forsake their sinful flesh birthright to be born again as children of YHWH. This last is not the natural state of man, but rather the privilege of believers to become a New Creature in Him.

The old Testament does not refer to men as presently being sons of Elohim, no matter how faithful they are.

For a very long time Christians have had an idea drilled into their minds which makes very little rational sense. The idea that the canon is flawless. Christians will often parrot exactly what they have heard their seminary trained leaders tell them : “There can’t be mistakes in it, He promised to preserve His Word”…

And He did. He did not, however, say that men would not be able to add or subtract information, translate it badly or otherwise attempt to subvert its messages.

This is why believers can not take a lazy approach to learning His word…. It Is out there… but it is up to you to crack open a Strong’s Concordance… study and test in His Spirit extra-canonical texts and research carefully, thoroughly and without prejudice the origins of various translations of the bible, and who was behind them.

Neither can people accept, without question, some single English translation of canon nor can they throw up their hands and determine there is no way to know His full message… neither are realistic.

There is no doubt He has preserved His word on Earth… now it’s His people’s job to Seek it.

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The Dragon : Satan The Serpent

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Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field that Yahuwah ‘Elohiym had made
– Genesis 3:1

The word “serpent”, mentioned here, is translated from the word nachash. This word can mean in the sense of a verb: to whisper, prognosticate or enchant. As a noun it can mean an incantation, an enchantment or a snake.

It is of interest and importance to also note that the same root is used to mean “copper” : nechuwshah and the Chaldean word for “copper” (nechash) is virtually identical to the word which is used for “serpent” in Genesis 3:1.

Was an actual snake involved in the temptation of Eve?

I have encountered, recently, quite a bit of material which supposes that there was no involvement of any reptile in the events of Genesis 3. This view is often closely associated with the idea that the method of temptation also did not involve a literal tree nor any literal fruit.

It is noted in this view that the definition of the word “nachash” only associates serpents with the meaning by way of attributing the primary definition to its character, such as hissing and a sneaky, crafty nature.

Without going off topic and delving into the literal or non-literal meaning of trees and fruit, the use of the word nachash can be found throughout scripture in reference to instances where anything But a literal snake would be quite odd.

An example would be Exodus 4:3 when Moses cast a rod upon the ground and it became a serpent. YHWH commands him to then put forth his hand and take the serpent by its tail. It’s a logical conclusion, then, that the word nachash is, at least at times, used to mean an actual, physical reptile.

Another source to examine for evidence of the presence of an actual serpent in the garden of Eden is what history and archeology have to say about serpents throughout a wide array of cultures.

Serpents, are perhaps, the most heavily dealt with beasts in religious and mythological records. They are seen as embodiments of evil, wisdom, luck, power, knowledge and enchantment. Depicted in ancient art countless numbers of times, they are often shown as an evil to be defeated or feared.. as if mankind had learned to associate their misfortune in life with this beast.

Other depictions actually portray a serpent with a tree and human beings nearby… a scene very reminiscent of the description of events in Genesis 3.

Some even depict serpents as having legs. Recall the curse put on the serpent – “Because you have done this, you are cursed more than all cattle and more than every beast of the field. You shall go on your belly and you shall eat dust all the days of your life.” Genesis 3:14

So then if we have the involvement of a real beast… how did this beast come to be used as Satan’s tool and why a serpent rather than some other animal or why did Satan himself not appear instead of using a creature as his medium?

First we can look at what is unique about the serpent as opposed to other animals. “Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field…”

You might look at a modern snake crawling through your own garden and not associate it with a great degree of intelligence, and such is the case now with this animal who has been debased from its original created form both in appearance and brain power, but not only did the serpent once have a very different form, it also had great intellect.

Though most might be accustomed to considering humans the only earthly creatures with sentient intelligence and feel that this is directly connected to mankind being created in YHWH’s image… there is not an actual parallel between human monopoly on intelligence and their unique design in His image.

Humans are designed in His image in the sense that they literally resemble the form of their Maker, both in appearance and in having an imperishable and individual spirit. The serpent was not made in the image of YHWH but it was created with great intelligence and even a sentient will that could yield to Satan.

This brings us to another point about why the serpent as opposed to some other animal. YHWH created man in His image, but is man the only creature who had a “model” they were created to resemble?

Consider a particular classification of angelic being called a Seraph. Seraphim are mentioned in the English translation of the Bible in Isaiah: “Above it stood seraphim, each one had six wings, with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.” Isaiah 6:2.

The word in Hebrew – saraph means a fiery, burning creature identified with a serpent and interestingly… copper. (refer back to the words nachash and nechuwshah). The word saraph occurs also in Numbers 21:8 and is translated “fiery serpent” and again in Isaiah 14 and 30 also translated a “fiery serpent”.

In Revelation, Satan is referred to as “that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan” Revelation 12:9. If the animal known as a serpent was modeled or “made in the image” of the class of angelic beings to which Satan himself belongs, it is quite logical that he chose this beast as the most suitable physical housing for himself.

Why didn’t Satan himself manifest physically to Eve? Because he couldn’t. Satan had no physical presence and as a rebellious spirit outside of YHWH’s will, he had no authority to breach the divide between the spiritual and physical realms without the explicit consent to inhabit a native, physical resident of earth.

Satan: The Originator of Sin

Satan is most often connected to the individual called “Lucifer” spoken of in Isaiah 14… i do not agree that these are the same individuals, but that subject is for a different discussion.

The bible does, however, provide an understanding of his goals, his motives and when he initiated his rebellion. He is described in Job as an opponent of both the Creator and those who serve Him… attempting to lay accusation against YHWH’s servants in order to destroy them.

He behaves like a malicious prosecuting attorney, he can’t supersede his Creator’s law so instead he attempts to work it to his ends… knowing that the wages of sin are death, he seeks to demand the full penalty of breaking the law when a person stumbles… and is not above tempting you to stumble so he can. (Thank Yahushua for Mercy!)

In Revelation are these verses about him :

“And war broke out in the heaven. Miyka’el and his angels fought with the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought but they did not prevail nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.
So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Diablos and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice saying in the sky, “At this moment salvation and strength and the kingdom of our ‘Eloah and the power of His Anointed have come, for the accuser of our brothers who accused them before our ‘Eloah day and night, has been cast down. ” Revelation 12:7-10

This future event shows some of Satan’s goals… he has a desire to literally overthrow YHWH, His law and His will to the (insane) point that he will even storm the “gates of heaven” and engage His faithful angels in battle.

Some will see this as a description of a past event, however it is clear by looking throughout scripture that until this point, he brings before YHWH accusation against believers and is denoted as the “prince of the power of the air”… still having access to heavenly realms.

Satan was the original sinner… having been created (as were all creatures) good, he conceived the antithesis of creation… destruction, in that he willfully began to oppose the sovereign will of YHWH which by its very nature upholds all creation… the natural consequence of that opposition is destruction… the wages of sin were always death.

In his dissent, he successfully lured legions of other angelic beings into his vision of a universe without YHWH. This event occurred before mankind existed, as obviously he was already in a sinful state when he tempted Eve.

This is the rebellion most believers are familiar with, and it was the one which would set in course all other instances of willful sin for all of time… but it might not be as well known that it wasn’t the last angelic rebellion. That’s another discussion.

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