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Was There an 8th Day of Creation?

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For most who read and believe scripture, the account of creation in Genesis is understood to have taken place in six days, the seventh day being that one which was set apart as a day of rest from all that YHWH made.

There are, however, some who do not believe that creation ceased on day six, but proceeded to day eight on which Adam, who is normally thought of as the first man, was created.

Those who have this view do not consider Adam and Eve to have been the first humans on Earth, but rather believe that those who were made on day six were a separate creation of human/ humanoid beings.

Often it is explained in terms of these first ones having been all the various races minus that one which was chosen to bring forth Messiah, who was Adam, created on day eight.

It would not be wise to choose either view simply on how the information impresses one at first thought.

Neither adhering to the more well accepted sixth day creation because of tradition, nor adopting the eight day view because of its novelty are good foundations for a clear answer.

Perhaps many who choose either one, having encountered both, do so on the grounds of one of those two reasons, but all interpretation should be tested thoroughly.

Support for the belief in an eighth day creation for Adam are often the following:

1. There is a clear distinction in the telling of the sixth day “humans” and the later telling of the creation of Adam. (Genesis 1 and Genesis 2)

2. The first people were created “in His image” both male and female, rather than Adam who was created alone (and androgynous) and later had a wife made for him out of his own flesh.

3. The first people were created, while Adam was “formed” out of the ground

4. There is a correlation between the first people created and the “beast of the earth” created on the sixth day.

5. The creation of the “eighth day” is evident in the pattern for all of human history – 7,000 years followed by the “eighth day” of the new creation.

6. The “breath of life” breathed into Adam is synonymous with a soul or spirit which the first created people did not have. The first people had YHWH’s likeness, the second had His spirit.

7. Cain mentioned “everyone” who found him would kill him for his crime against Abel and the only explanation for those others is that there were people created prior to Adam and Eve.

8. Cain found a wife and this wife must have been one of those of the people who had been made before Adam and Eve.

Knowing whether or not these points are a good support for the theory means addressing each one in the context of scripture, demanding that scripture make a probable, not just possible case for it.

The same is true of the conventional understanding. His word is not given in a way that requires us to guess. In the end, all correct interpretations will be those which add up to the simplest and most comprehensible answer according to literal language.

One Act or Two?

In Genesis chapter 1 there is a chronological description of creation, describing each day and what was made on that day. The first day describes the creation of the Earth, light, day and night. On the second day was the creation of the firmament of heaven. On the third day, dry land was made to appear and created plant life. On day four were the luminaries of heaven made, the stars, sun and moon. On day five were made sea creatures and birds. On day six, land animals were made, reptiles, mammals and finally people.

“Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind. Cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to its kind,” and it was so.

And ‘Elohiym made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good.

Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

So ‘Elohiym created the man in His image, in the image of ‘Elohiym He created him, male and female He created them.”

– Genesis 1:24-27

The seventh day is then set apart for rest from all these things YHWH made, but after the description of the seventh day comes another telling of the creation of humans.

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed the man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living creature.

Yahuwah ‘Elohiym planted a garden eastward in ‘Eden and there He put the man whom He had formed”.

– Genesis 2:7, 8

Is this a continuation of the account proceeding in chronological order to the eighth day? There are two points which seriously hinder this being probable.

All other days described before this are done in such a precise way as to pointedly mention the beginning and ending of each “the evening and the morning” as in: “So the evening and the morning were Day One.”, also giving each day aclear number.

This is absent for an eighth day. There is no mention of an evening and a morning encompassing a certain day on which this occurred, nor is there any mention of “day eight”.

The second hindrance is an even more difficult one to justify. The proclamation of the end of the sixth day reads like this:

Thus the heavens and the earth and all (kol: whole, all, any every) the host of them were finished (kalah: end, to be finished, ceased). – Genesis 2:1

There is a clear statement that all things had been made at this point and that following this was cessation from the act of creation.

In His Image: Created or Formed?

Is there an indication that the first account describes a simultaneous “creation” of man and woman while the second describes a process of “forming” Adam alone from the clay?

The first account reads as follows:

“So ‘Elohiym created (bara: create) the man (adam) in His image, in the image of ‘Elohiym He created him, male and female He created (bara:create) them.”

– Genesis 1:27

Here there is the word “bara” which is pointed out as differing from the word used in the “forming” of Adam in Genesis 2:

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed (yatsar: mold, squeeze) the man (adam) of the dust of the ground”

– Genesis 2:7

If there is a point being made here referencing a different mode of creation employed between the first and second humans, it should by all means remain consistent. It is, however, not the case.

In Genesis 4 is the account of the birth of Seth, who is born in replacement of the slain Abel. We must be assured that Seth was the son of Adam and Eve, this being repeated throughout scripture many times, not the son of an earlier creation of humans.

Following this account is the use of the word “bara” (create) in reference to Adam and Eve as well as a reference to their creation “in His image”.

“And ‘Adam knew his wife again and she bare a son and called his name Sheth, “For ‘Elohiym,” she said, “has appointed me another seed instead of ‘Hebel whom Qayin slew.”

And to Sheth, to him also there was born a son and he called his name ‘Enowsh. Then men began to call upon the name of Yahuwah.

This is the book of the generations of man (adam) in the day that ‘Elohiym created mankind.

In the likeness of ‘Elohiym He made him, male and female He created (bara) them and blessed them and called their name ‘Adam in the day when they were created.”

– Genesis 4: 25, 26, Genesis 5:1, 2

Beast of the Earth connected to First Humans?

It is often believed among those who support an 8th day creation that the description of the creation of the “beast of the Earth” in Genesis is synonymous with those first humans created prior to Adam. This is also, many times, connected with the Beast of the Earth mentioned in Revelation.

Scripture gives the account of the creation of the “beast of the Earth” in Genesis like this:

“And ‘Elohiym made the beast (chay: life,living) of the earth according to its kind, cattle (behemah) according to its kind, and everything that creeps (remes:reptile) on the earth according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good. .”

– Genesis 1:25

There is perhaps little to be said of this as any connection to the creation of human or humanlike creatures. The word “chay” preceding a list of animals which were made on the sixth day could only logically be a collective statement before a more detailed list. It is not a word which is specific to any certain sort of living creature.

Where this connection is usually made, it is included within a doctrine that strongly supports the idea of a superior race and lesser peoples who are made fundamentally different by the manner of their creation.

It is often found in Christian identity and British Israelism cults and follows the ages old tradition of an idea which began in the rulership of nephilim over weaker humans.

Turned upside down, this idea is given a Christian face with which to tempt the pride of believers and alienate various ethnic groups from Christianity.

Is the Future New Heaven and Earth created on an “eighth day”?

It is said that one day is equal to a thousand years in the eyes of YHWH and though the precise days of creation are given in terms of 24 hour intervals, the whole of human history might be sensibly mapped out over a week of millennia.

It is completed, therefor, in the same time construct as the act of creation. It is theorized that if Adam was the new creation of the eighth day, his creation coincides with the new heaven and new earth to be created after the thousand year Sabbath of Messiah’s reign.

The difficulty with this idea is that the model we have been given to observe has no day eight. We are shown a seven day cycle, the last day of which is Sabbath and the following day is not day eight, but day one.

The concept of a day eight in the cycle is only applicable within an occult context where there is an emphasis on day eight being the day of the phoenix, the rebirth, the new age.

Sabbath, by it’s very nature, is special because it is the final touch on creation, it is the moment where the labors are enjoyed instead of toiled over, it is the sum reward of all things worked for.

When the millennial reign of Messiah ends, we should not expect and eternal rotation of the same patterns of time we now have. By being a new creation, even time itself will not be measurable by any present concept of it, that also, will be new. There can be no day eight in a new creation as eight proceeds from the prior series of numbers1-7 and is not, by definition, new.

Did Elohim impart His spirit to Adam but not to the first humans?

In Genesis 1:26 it is said that “man” is made in His image:

“Then ‘Elohiym said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

– Genesis 1:26

The later account describes the formation of Adam and how he became a living being:

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed the man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living creature.”

– Genesis 2:7

It is believed by many who see these as separate creations that this describes the difference between those first humans and Adam. While the first received the physical likeness of their maker, the second received His Spirit, indicated by the words “breath of life”.

The phrase “breath of life” and “living soul” is understood in this belief to refer to life in a spiritual or eternal sense. The words themselves, though, do not indicate a special or eternal sort of life which was exclusively given to Adam, but rather an animating force which is applicable to all things which live and breathe.

“And Yahuwah ‘Elohiym formed (yatsar: mold, squeeze) the man (adam) of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath (n’shamah: puff, wind, breath) of life (chay:life,living) and the man (adam) became a living (chay) soul (nephesh: breathing, living creature).

Yahuwah ‘Elohiym planted a garden eastward in ‘Eden and there He put the man (adam) whom He had formed (yatsar).”

– Genesis 2:7,8

Here “chay” is used, just as it is used earlier in Genesis to describe the sort of life which animals have. The word “nephesh”, which is often translated as “soul” cannot be understood in the sense of what people normally think of as a soul. It, also, is used to describe a creature, any creature, who is living and breathing as shown here:

“So ‘Elohiym created great sea creatures and every living thing (nephesh) that moves, with which the waters abounded according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind, and ‘Elohiym saw that it was good.”

– Genesis 1:21

Was the “everyone” Cain was afraid of an indication of multitudes of humans made before Adam?

Cain made this well known statement when he was cursed by YHWH to become a vagabond for the murder of his brother:

“And Qayin said to Yahuwah, “My punishment is greater than I can bear!
Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground.

I shall be hidden from Your face. I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth and it will happen that anyone who finds me will kill me.”

– Genesis 4:13, 14

Anyone or “every one”, as it is given in the KJV, is seen as indicating a great number of people. That indication is not literally present, but thought to implied by the way it is often used in the context of the English language.

The word is translated from “kol” which properly means, any, all or every. It does not indicate a number, either few or many, but simply describes any or every of whatever certain group is in question. It would make as much sense if Adam and Eve were the only two others as much as it would if there were multitudes of others.

Jubilees is a helpful text in considering the theory of the eighth day creation as a whole and it gives a good idea of how many people were on earth as produced through Adam and Eve at the time of this event.

Without including possible grandchildren, there would have been approximately eleven children of Adam and Eve alive at the time conservatively. All of these would perhaps feel justified in seeking due vengeance for their brother’s murder.

“And in the third week in the second jubilee she gave birth to Cain, and in the fourth she gave birth to Abel, and in the fifth she gave birth to her daughter Âwân.

And in the first (year) of the third jubilee, Cain slew Abel because (God) accepted the sacrifice of Abel, and did not accept the offering of Cain”

– Jubilees 4:1, 2

Where did Cain find a wife?

It is often pointed out that Cain could not have gotten a wife anywhere if there had not been “other” humans present who were not of his own parents. There is no reason to assume this, however.

The command against incest had not yet been given, and for a good reason, all who were available for marriage in the beginnings were siblings. Jubilees also offers insight to Cain’s wife:

“And Cain took ’Âwân his sister to be his wife and she bare him Enoch at the close of the fourth jubilee. And in the first year of the first week of the fifth jubilee, houses were built on the earth, and Cain built a city, and called its name after the name of his son Enoch.”

– Jubilees 4:9

The introduction of the theory of two creations of mankind is an important indicator of the motive, reasoning and philosophy behind it.

If it were intended as the interpretation we should receive from His word, its teaching should bear the fruit of that and be identifiable in both ancient Judaism (before Babylon) as well as the early Christian church.

Where it has sprung up, though is not in either of these places, but in the mind of a Jewish man who lived in Alexandria and who was much more a student of Greek pagan philosophy than Judaism.

Philo of Alexandria was known for his writings which attempted to meld together traditional Judaism and Greek philosophy.

It is an attempt which is not unlike the goal the Catholic church worked toward in melding together Christianity and pagan religious systems.

He interpreted nothing in scripture as literally true, but believed in a symbolic and allegoric interpretation which in essence means nothing, as no symbol is meaningful without a clear object or truth which it symbolizes.

If YHWH meant to give us riddles which only a few could understand, why then can we easily recognize the message present in His word that demonstrates how He uses simplicity and lowliness rather than worldly wisdom and high estate?

“Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants You have ordained strength because of Your enemies that You may silence the enemy and the avenger”.

-Psalm 8:2

Philo sought to”reveal” a cryptic and hidden meaning in the bible which was not there, the same snare which continually draws believers, even today, down a path of speculation which inevitably draws ever nearer a pagan religious system and away from a truth YHWH plainly gave.

One of these cryptic meanings he revealed to his followers was the theory of an eighth day creation, stating that the first men were made in a perishable physical image of their maker but the second were created as creatures with His spirit.

The very theory that makes it’s appearance in the beliefs of many seeking Christians today originated in a man who taught concepts which were derived out of Greek Mystery Religions.

We have a Creator who has given us a perfect representation of truth in a most logical, most common sense way. and I have never known anything written to have made as much sense as His word does when read just as it reads.

It is the persistent Author of Confusion, Satan, who seeks to make what was simple into something complicated, knotted and difficult to follow. There might be no better general rule of reading His word than “if it is not said, it was not meant.”.

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CERN, LHC & The Great Return

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If you have not read the article “The Breaking of Ouroborus” by Cyprium, i recommend beginning there before reading this, as much of what is written in this article will make better sense read second to that one.

The CERN LHC (large hadron collider) is a massive particle accelerator near Geneva Switzerland, costing 9 billion dollars to build. The goals of this machine are claimed to be aimed at understanding the answers to the fundamental questions of physics, including the hope of discovering the hypothetical Higgs boson. In theory, the Higgs boson, often called the “god particle”, is a massive scalar elementary particle which gives all things mass. This particle would supposedly be the framework of all things existing in physicality.

The LHC intends to collide particles at a rate slightly under the speed of light and in the process will be potentially creating black holes, exotic matter and wormholes. The worried public has been reassured that nothing disastrous can occur from the experiments which they intend to do at CERN. It is assured, they say, that such things as black holes and wormholes would remain so incredibly small and exist for such a tiny fraction of time that they would be harmless and merely side effects of their intended goals.

So far, though the LHC has encountered many and strange interruptions which has prevented it from reaching it’s full potential yet, it has already produced black holes.

“I can confirm that, yes, the first stages of the experiment resulted in the appearance of a miniscule black hole,” said the spokesperson to gathered reporters on Monday. “The black hole is being kept under quarantine and our scientists have been monitoring its progression,”…

CERN’s large hadron collider is expected to produce wormholes as well. Wormholes are a means by which traveling through time is possible, though for one to be traversable it must be much larger than the subatomic size which CERN claims will be the only ones possible with their particle collider. The function of a wormhole can basically be understood by the analogy of piercing two ends of a piece of paper with a needle and then folding that paper so that those two holes connect. The necessity to travel across the paper’s surface is bypassed, the paper itself representing time and space.

Two physicists, Irina Ya. Aref’eva, and Igor V. Volovich disagree with CERN’s assurances that traversable wormholes are not the direction CERN is headed toward.

“We suggest that there is a possibility to test causality at the LHC. We argue that if the scale of quantum gravity is of the order of few TeVs, proton-proton collisions at the LHC could lead to the formation of time machines (spacetime regions with closed timelike curves) which violate causality. One model for the time machine is a traversable wormhole. We argue that the traversable wormhole production cross section at the LHC is of the same order as the cross section for the black hole production. Traversable wormholes assume violation of the null energy condition (NEC) and an exotic matter similar to the dark energy is required. Decay of the wormholes/time machines and signatures of time machine events at the LHC are discussed.”

The LHC is now operating at 7 TeV (teraelecrtronvolts, 1TeV=i trillion electronvolts) with a stated goal of eventually reaching 14 TeV. It is argued that traversable wormholes could not be created on earth since the energy required would be something comparable to stellar explosions, though the amount of kinetic energy necessary to produce results of a certain kind within a collider are less than that required to produce the same results in space.

The formation of exotic matter would be necessary to the formation of a traversable wormhole as a result of the Casimir effect which is a sort of localized vacuum phenomena in which a mass negative region of space-time can exist. Exotic matter violates energy conditions, having negative mass or repulsion to gravity. At high enough energy of collision exotic particles can be formed and have been detected at the LHC.

Time in no straight line, it is a circuit and circuits repeat themselves. Why this should be is not questioned as much as whether it is but the fact that time is a circuit is observable with no doubt. It can be observed as simply as watching the eastern Horizon at sunrise on the morning of the Spring Equinox. As time passes, the sun rises through the houses of the zodiac in a circular pattern which eventually arrives back at it’s beginning point. Why time exists in a cycling pattern is directly connected with the origin of sin and that there are beings, including Satan who are interested in maintaining a timepath which never exits into eternity and so to the judgment and defeat which is determined to them.

As these days give every sign of being the last days, Satan knows his time is short in a literal way. Knowing he will not be successful against the Most High, he knows that his chances only rest in a device to maintain or begin anew the next cycle. It would seem that this is what CERN”S Large Hadron Collider has been built to achieve. It is evident not only in the published science involved but the geometric design of the machine. CERN represents it’s goals with a statue of Shiva. Shiva is a deity who represents death and rebirth, a being connected with the idea of a circuit of time which folds in on itself to meet end to beginning.

CERN : Shiva

Octagonal Design

In Buddhism a symbolic object exists called a dharma wheel. It is an 8 spoked wheel that represents the noble 8-fold path to enlightenment. It is described as a way which leads to the ceasing of suffering and the achieving of a new and more enlightened consciousness which perhaps can be said to sound quite a bit like the promise of world peace in a “new world order”.

Dharma Wheel 8


8-Pt Star in Wheel

Nazi Octagon

Vatican Octagon

The symbolism of 8 and what its meaning is connected to a circle of time is found in an ancient inscription in Egypt.

“I am One who becomes Two,
who becomes Four,
who becomes Eight,
and then I am One again. ”

8 is a number which universally symbolizes the new beginning following the close of a repetitive time sequence. The 8th day in weeks is also the first.

The design of certain components of the LHC will remind you of the symbols just spoken of.

LHC 01

LHC 02

LHC 03

The Aerial view of LHC will remind you of the Ouroborus

CERN Aerial View

The Dharma wheel and 8 fold path is not simply a religious concept. Physics itself involves a theory called the the 8 fold way. This is a theory for organizing subatomic baryons (a composite particle made of three quarks) and mesons (made of one quark and one anti quark) into octets. Both of these particles belong to the hadron family.

It is most interesting to notice that the LHC has repeatedly been prevented from reaching it’s intended potential by various strange circumstances which have even led some scientists to wonder if the machine was being sabotaged by itself from a future point or perhaps even time travelers who already understood the dangers of the thing. One occurrence was nothing more than a little bird who dropped a bread crumb into the machine. I believe it is neither the machine itself or time travelers but it is not coincidence either. I believe that YHWH Himself hinders their progress and it remains to be seen if there will come a point when He will allow them to attempt all that they design to do with it.

The latest thing to hinder the LHC’s progress is an unknown vibration which they term “the Hump”. It is a high frequency vibration between 31 and 38 KHz and has caused beam losses for the collider while in operation. CERN is not able to identify what the vibration is or where it might be coming from except that it either originates directly below or directly above the collider ring. It is just such a vibration as to cause the perfect means for disruption of the machine. It is my conclusion that He has drawn a line which will not be crossed except by His will at His timing if ever and even should this device accomplish to create a continued time loop, He has promised that His plan for eternity will not be thwarted.

Update: July 4th, 2012

interesting timing..

“Scientists in Geneva on Wednesday applauded the discovery of a subatomic particle that looks like the Higgs boson.”

Discovery UPDATE (July 4): ‘Higgs Boson Hunt: We’ve discovered some…

They really did discover something.

“During a live CERN announcement on Wednesday morning, representatives from the CMS and ATLAS detectors at the LHC detailed the discovery (to a 4.9 and 5 sigma significance in the CMS and ATLAS detectors respectively) of a previously unknown massive boson that resembles the Higgs. History has just been made.”

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