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When is the Gog-Magog War?

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The nearly universal teaching seems to place this war at the beginning or in the midst or at the end of the tribulation. It is what has spurred so many Christians to closely link the present political state of Israel with both the redeemed people of Israel and with the days prior to Yahushua’s return.

I am not so sure we’ve ever been clearly told in scripture, though, that this war occurs at any of those times or that it is in any way linked at all to the present political state of Israel.

We’ve revisited the fact several times that the present state of Israel, its government, boundaries and laws are established by the same people who initiated the holocaust. It should seem strange that a government as willing to partake in false flag terrorism as any other should be suddenly defended by YHWH, who condemns just that kind of tyranny and declares the fate of those partaking in it an unpleasant one.

So, what does the bible say about the timing of Gog and Magog. Ezekiel 38,39 might not clear that answer up, by itself, but lets consider this section:

“Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land….
Eze 38:14 ¶ Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know [it]?”

Dwell safely? Is that what is going on for the people in Israel today? Was that going on before the present troubles there? Has that happened at any length since the establishment of the present Israeli state?

As they always say, take things in context, so backing up to Ezekiel 37, we find out how the vision he received from YHWH began…

“1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the Spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,
2 and caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
6 and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
7 ¶ So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
11 ¶ Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 and shall put my Spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD. – Ezekiel 37: 1-14″

Nearly all mainstream clergy have been teaching consistently that this is a metaphorical vision of the regathering of Israel. It is that, but why discount the obvious literal meaning? This is a vision of resurrection. Why would it not be the literal resurrection of the redeemed? Why would this not be a consistent foretelling of a regathering which takes place after the raising of the saved dead, whom we know will inhabit His Holy City in the future? Revelation would seem to agree with that…

“4 ¶ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: Dan. 7.9, 22 and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 ¶ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, Ezek. 38.1-16 to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.” – Revelation 20:4-10

It is there, in the 20th chapter of Revelation, that an exact time frame for a Gog and Magog war is mentioned, and that time is stated plainly as being “when the thousand years are expired”…after the Millennial reign.

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The Church of Help Yourself

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Psychology has it’s roots in the worship of pagan deities, particularly one in Egyptian legend named Thoth. When a thing has roots in an evil source, it can not be expected to grow into something which produces good fruit, but this is a simple truth which is confounded in the minds of people by the passing of time, and new benevolent-looking masks placed over old wickedness.

I am no fan of psychology, and so it alarms me to see that so many Christian ministries are devoted to it, and even those which are not devoted to it have become churches which – instead of teaching His word – give lengthy sermons on psychological applications of Christian morality.

If you desire a Christian self help book, you will have no trouble finding one. Hundreds of thousands of them exist and more are written every day, books to tell you how to live like a Christian man, books to tell you how to live like a Christian woman, books to help you recover from addiction, books to help you recover from divorce, books to help you pray, books to help your self-esteem, books to help your finances.

I am confused. Who is the man or woman who has written a manual on any of these things and wrote something better on them that what scripture has already taught?

Why is it that even believers now feel that they need the opinions of men to put right what is wrong in their lives, instead of turning to the One who has had answers all along?

The churches of the world are becoming a psychologists’ offices instead of the congregations of Yahushua. The answers He has given to the problems we might face are simple, clear, and unmistakable – but they are often not what people want to be told, and so they seek out some complex definition of their troubles – and usually one which removes all their own responsibilitie to whatever the problem is.

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His word on living like a man or woman whose life is dedicated to Him was summed up in two sentences spoken by Messiah.

“‘You shall love Yahuwah your ‘Eloah with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” -Matthew 22:37-40

It did not require Him 500 pages to explain what the focus of a life in His service should look like. It is a simple answer but applied in life, it goes against the sinful nature of fallen creatures and so they become hungry to hear something which excuses a lack of willingness to do all that those few words mean, or provides a recipe for being able to accomplish it which should be no more complicated than complete submission to His will.

Perhaps one of the strangest things i have heard advertised by a Christian ministry was a book on how to pray which included pages and pages of the pastor’s own prayers on various matters.

The advertisement explained that many do not know how to pray because they feel unworthy or not eloquent enough, or they seem to be talking to themselves when they pray to Him.

I can not think of a more unnatural way to address any of those problems than trying to borrow the prayers of someone else. Prayers are intensely personal communications between believers and their Elohim, much more than the words which are spoken, and sometimes do not contain any words at all.

He told us in what way to pray, giving us a model example and instructions to not pray so that others can take note of your praying, but always in sincerity and meekness.

If we feel unworthy, so be it. We are unworthy, this is why His favor is called Mercy and not Due Payment.

If we are not eloquent, what should it matter? Has He not already known our needs before we begin to speak?

If we feel we are talking to ourselves, we don’t have a problem with praying, we have a problem with our faith.

Maybe my least favorite aspect of self-help in the Christian community is just what those words, “self-help”, mean. When have fallen beings not been focused on self help?

It is something we all can do well, help ourselves. We help ourselves to whatever we want that we can get. We help ourselves to what we should, and should not have alike, and we help ourselves to what we desire before we help anyone else to what they do.

We are always looking around for that to which we can help ourselves. In the end, we can help ourselves to all kinds of things, but we can’t ever save ourselves from anything. We need Him for that, and Him alone.

Likewise, we will never need to be concerned about our self-esteem, which is a thing on which Christian psychology, and psychology in general, is so focused. No one with a sin nature does not esteem themselves, we are all very good at it.

Nearly all we do, without thinking, is done to benefit us in some way. Infants are able to esteem themselves, crying out for food and attention, it is the first thing human beings know how to do.

The only one to walk the Earth in human flesh who did not esteem Himself, but gave His everything for everyone else was Yahushua. If we are to be conformed to Him, perhaps we could use a little less esteem for ourselves.

I see all this trend in helping self and psychology over scripture in the church as one a sign of apostasy in these last days. As the whole world becomes more and more wrapped up in self-absorbed thinking, the church follows. It is constantly and consistently about “me” and “I’ everywhere you turn.

“And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold, but he who endures to the end shall be saved.”
– Matthew 24: 10-13

If there is any good advice to counteract all the troubles of life it is – cease worrying about self and live for Him.

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