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Who are “The Two”?

Posted in 02 : The Truth Is Out There... with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on 04/14/2011 by timenolonger

In this recycled era of ‘anything goes’ because ‘it’s all a blur’ temporary trends have remained a constant.. even (and perhaps especially) among ministries.. trends viewed in retrospect however are often disturbing to those who once partook.. ‘I can’t believe I ever wore.. bellbottoms.. platforms.. black eyeliner.. jelly shoes..’ etc.

One of the disturbing trends currently circulating through ministries involves a line in Matthew 18:19 which states:

‘..if two of you shall agree on earth as touching anything that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in Heaven’.

This line is used often in prayers for others in a way that indicates to the person for whom the prayer is being said that ‘I’m praying for you – and you and I both agree that you should have that financial breakthrough.. new car.. better job.. etc. therefore our Father will definitely provide it to you’.

That may be a nice thought with good intentions and probably goes over well on 24-hour prayer lines.. but what exactly is the case – who exactly are the ‘two’ in agreement.. and what exactly about their agreement constitutes the will of our Father in Heaven?

Examining the line in context..

19: Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.

20: For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

It’s important to note here that Yahushua is addressing His disciples.. people who believed on Him.. people ‘gathered together in His name’. One could say ‘..if two [gathered together in Yahushua’s name] agree on earth.. it shall be done..’

But there is a strong indication from ministries these days that essentially any ‘two people’ can agree on earth concerning anything they ask.. and therefore guarantee it will be delivered to them.

It is an idea that utilizes scripture but changes the intended meaning.. and it comes off sounding more like an occult incantation than it does a humbled supplication.. hence of course its popularity.

One might argue that it only applies if the two doing the asking are gathered together in Messiah’s name.. for example one believer and one non-believer can assemble but the request wouldn’t be granted because there is only one believer doing the asking.. but we know from Matthew 6:6 that this is not the case..

‘..when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.’

We know our Father in Heaven has rewarded us openly many times for those prayers we have asked of Him by ourselves in secret.

So then.. who are the ‘two’ in 19.. and who are the ‘two or three’ in verse 20.. and why is Yahushua making plurality an issue when we know that even our individual silent prayers to the Father in Him are answered?

The simple answer is that the first person in all three equations must be the Holy Spirit.

‘But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send(1) in My name(2), He(3) shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you(4).’

– John 14:26

We see in this verse 4 basic things..
1: The Holy Spirit is sent from our Father in Heaven
2: The Holy Spirit is sent in Yahushua’s name
3: The Holy Spirit is referred to as ‘He’
4: The Holy Spirit confirms Yahushua

The Holy Spirit is commonly known as a ‘person’:

.. and regarded as one in scripture.. an example being that the Holy Spirit can and has been ‘grieved’..
Isaiah 63:10 ‘..they rebelled, and vexed His Holy Spirit’
‘vexed’ in this verse is the Hebrew ‘atsab’ which means ‘grieved’.
Ephesians 4:30 ‘..grieve not the Holy Spirit of Yahuwah’

The Holy Spirit also dwells within His believers:

Isaiah 63:11 ‘..where is He that put His Holy Spirit within them?’
Luke 11:13 ‘..how much more shall your Heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him?’

The Holy Spirit is the person abiding in each believer on Yahushua:

It is specifically Yahuwah’s Holy Spirit which He has given to those who are His in Messiah.. 1Thessalonians 4:8 ‘..Yahuwah, who has also given us His Holy Spirit’

It is Yahuwah’s own Holy Spirit and therefore is only in complete agreement with Him.. the same way Yahushua ‘the express image’ [Hebrews 1:3] of Yahuwah is likewise only in complete agreement with Him..

In other words.. ‘..there are Three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit: and these Three are One’. 1John 5:7

To agree with the Holy Spirit is to agree with the Father and the Word [Yahushua is the Word John 1:14].. Our individual spirit should be in agreement with His Holy Spirit.. regardless of the number of the assembly and not just when we pray but always.

The ‘magic charm’ idea that two people can agree on earth concerning anything they ask and it will be done for them is dangerous..

It asserts an idea that removes the Holy Spirit, and thus the Father and the Word [Yahushua], from the equation by implying that ‘the two in agreement’ is constituted simply by two individuals – when in fact the ‘two’ is comprised of the Holy Spirit + the spirit of the believer.

Ministries these days sadly are rife with prosperity doctrines.. seed-sowing.. church-planting and so much more that leaves out our Savior.. it’s good to remember the promise we have been given as believers on Him ‘..for He has said I will never leave you, nor forsake you’ and we know even when we are by ourselves we are never alone.. and that our prayers – even if solitary – which are in agreement with His Holy Spirit will certainly be given us by our Father in Heaven.

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Kabbalah: Seeking Truth or a Worthless Mystery

Posted in 02 : The Truth Is Out There... with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on 12/02/2010 by timenolonger

Hidden mysteries, secret knowledge and higher spiritual wisdom are very attractive concepts to many people.

There is a sense in many individuals that the current generation of the world has been deprived of information relating to spiritual truths, and so anything which both satisfies the excitement of possessing hidden spiritual knowledge and seems to fill in many gaps left by traditional views, is easily accepted.

Nothing exists in a non Christian’s world view which contradicts exploring spiritualism that is occult.

Ensnaring the non believer in veiled Luciferian doctrine is no challenge, but for the believer it should be evident what conflicts scriptural morality have with these same concepts.

Still, the enemy is not lazy and there is an outlet for occult practices which bears enough of a resemblance to Christianity or biblical themes to lure the untrained or unguarded believer into them.

Kabbalah has attracted many adherents from every sort of spiritual viewpoint, but it’s traditional connection to the use of old testament texts and themes makes it a very tempting philosophy for Christians, especially those seeking some deeper understanding of the Creator, which is lacking in most Churches, and which Kabbalah promises to provide.

It does not attract those Christians by way of appealing to a fervor to know Him and a better understanding to obey Him, though, as it would if there was a pure motive involved, and the practice of it delivered a righteous message.

It appeals to the base senses of pride in the fallen nature, offering something which is supposedly exclusive, and transcending knowledge only a ‘worthy soul’ could connect with and understand. This gives the adherents a certain sense of elite status to be a part of such a thing, all of which is simply a matter of empty pride.

Kabbalah or Qabbalah, meaning “receiving” is a mystical philosophy which supposes to explain the nature of Elohim, of His creation, the nature of souls, good, evil and the relationships between all these things.

Though the practice uses a highly symbolic interpretation of scripture, it more heavily relies on traditions which are extra-biblical and occult.

As it now exists, traditional “Judaic” Kabbalah only manifested as a recorded presence in the middle ages, but it’s adherents maintain that it’s teachings have come down orally from the beginning of human existence on Earth. It gradually became a more secret practice throughout history and is only receiving a more public awareness in these later days.

Truthfully, Kabbalah is nearly as old many who practice it say. The teachings of this philosophy are not fundamentally Jewish, nor have their beginnings in Israel or her patriarchs, though.

Regardless of the name it goes by, or the incorporation of Hebrew themes and names for the Creator, it began as the pagan opposition of everything YHWH stands for and admonished His people to live by.

Kabbalah so resembles Babylonian mystery religion because that is exactly what it is –

And has simply been absorbed into Jewish tradition during Israeli captivity in Babylon, contrary to all warnings YHWH has given His people to be separate from such things.

It is also as new as it is old, meaning that what is today newly popular, a trend toward believing in a spiritual outlook which regards human beings as divine and regards all creation as one and a part of whatever is viewed as “god” which is endowed with a feminine aspect , often termed “New Age” is very much what Kabbalah teaches.

Though disguised as monotheistic and based upon a belief in the One true Creator, Kabbalah views Him in ten personifications or “emanations” corresponding to four “worlds”.

The same principal is seen in the occult geomancy/ astrology practice of Feng Shui where there are ten deities corresponding to four “pillars” and is also seen in the Egyptian ennead – nine “gods and one “hidden” deity.

In the Kabbalistic tradition, the Creator caused a void in the act of creation which brought chaos into being. Self aware creation is formed as a result of this destructive event and thus beings who are able to commit willful sin. The Creator Himself is so shown as a being who both manifests disorder and is the sole origin of evil.

There is no “enemy”, no Satan, nothing which opposes the Creator, since He has authored the disorder Himself.

This explanation is directly contrary to the nature of YHWH, according to scripture, who is clearly described as purely righteous and the author of order, never chaos.

Kabbalah deals heavily in the use of gemantria, a practice by which hidden interpretations are derived out of scripture and other texts using a numbering system that correlates to each Hebrew letter, and in turn correlates to a specific meaning.

Without doubt, there is meaning in all reality and there is math at the base of all things He created and ordered. The danger of attempting to gain hidden knowledge by way of numerical divination is that this is an example of infants playing with highly technical and dangerous machinery.

YHWH does not hide the information He intends His creation to understand and if there be anything He does not intend to make known to us, our attempt to know it is futile and can only result in misinterpretation. That misinterpretation is fuel for the enemy to deceive us. Numerological divination has always been linked with the astrology and alchemy of numerous pagan belief systems.

The scriptures are very to the point in making it well understood that YHWH and the laws He put forth are the only acceptable standard and that Yahushua is the only acceptable redeemer to that standard which provides reconciliation for the sinner.

There is no question of the exclusivity of belonging to Him or the exclusivity of the available means we have to do so. That inherent truth is at least diluted in Kabbalistic understanding, if not completely abandoned.

Kabbalah has accepted, and been accepted by, a wide variety of belief systems including Eastern religions, Islam, Gnosticism and every manner of pagan religion. It is universalist fundamentally, as is the current religious trend leading into the New World Order, globalist “oneness” cult.

Those who have taught Kabbalah in the ancient past were at least aware that their practice was highly dangerous and that the influences they called upon in doing so were treacherous.

Though not wise enough to put away the abomination from them entirely, they had more wisdom than do the ignorant dabblers in this philosophy now who pursue it in foolish disregard for fire they play with.

Yahushua spoke of these masters of the mystery religion who sought far and wide to find one “worthy” pupil to train up in his demonic enlightenment.

“Woe to you, scribes and Parash (Pharisees), hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of the valley of Hinnom as yourselves.”

– Matthew 23:15

The sect of the Pharisees were that which brought Kabbalah out of Babylon and into Judaism.

Of the non biblical texts which Kabbalah uses and relies on, the Zohar is one of the most important. The Zohar was penned by Moses De Leon in the 13th century, though he credited the content to Rabbi Shimon bar Yohai. It would seem that Moses De Leon actually received the information by way of becoming a medium to a spirit who dictated or wrote the text.

Shimon bar Yohai, himself was a teacher of the mystery arts and had been well known for his many so-called miracles. It is held in rabbinical records that he requested the assistance of a demon to possess the daughter of the Roman Emperor so that he could then demonstrate his powers by casting it out of her.

The text of the Zohar is actually a group of books which contains mystical interpretation of the Torah. The interpretations bear a strong resemblance to more modern theosophy than Judaic religion.

It is here that one finds the model of the trinity which is ancient and pagan but not the least Christian. The Creator, according to the Zohar, has three archetypes including a feminine aspect and an incomprehensible aspect which is above human involvement or understanding.

If there is still any possible doubt that Kabbalah opposes all things which are aligned with His will, consider the Kabbalists use of the supposed Name of Elohim, known as Shemhamphorasch.

The selfish use of His Name to gain personal power is a transgression which dates back to the pre-flood era. The Watchers having taught men the Name and how it might be used in this way is exactly the purpose of the commandment YHWH gave to not take His name in vain.

The Letters derived from three verses in Exodus having 72 characters each are arranged in a precise pattern which spell out the names of 72 angels and 72 “names of god”.

These beings, though, should not be assumed to be benevolent servants of YHWH.

These names are well known in occult belief to be the names of 72 fallen angels sometimes claimed to have been controlled by Solomon and employed to build his temple, even though such an act would contradict every warning of scripture to have nothing to do with drawing upon spiritual power that is not His Holy Spirit.

Anton Lavey, founder of the Church of Satan promoted calling upon these same beings and their names can be identified in grimoirs used in witchcraft.

Tarot cards, as well, owe their arrangement and naming to these 72 fallen angels. The names, divided into pairs are attributed to a ten degree section of the zodiac or ten numbers, four court cards and 22 major arcana – 36 pairs.

Seeking truth has become a popular claim, yet it is not enough to simply seek out truth. The motive itself must be Truth. To immerse one’s life in the honoring and worshiping of false deities is the definition of “practicing a lie”.

If the knowledge sought is to the end of fulfilling a desire to simply gain understanding of what seems hidden or exclusive or powerful, the final result is acquiring a vain and worthless mystery that belongs to those who have nothing to do with truth.

“Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and image worshippers, and whoever loves and practices a lie.”

– Revelation 22:14,15

“And now to the Watchers, who have sent you to pray for them, who in the beginning were in heaven, Say, In heaven have you been; secret things, however, have not been manifested to you; yet have you known a worthless mystery.

And this you have related to women in the hardness of your heart, and by that mystery have women and mankind multiplied evils upon the earth.”

– 1 Enoch 16: 2-4

“You worship what you do not know.

We know what we worship, for salvation is of the Yahudiym.

But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.

Yahuwah is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

– John 4: 22-24

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The Nature of Yahushua

Posted in 01 : The Chief Cornerstone with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on 06/01/2010 by timenolonger

Isaiah 44:6 – “Thus says YHWH, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, YHWH of hosts: I am the first and I am the last, And there is no Elohim besides Me.”

There is debate in the Christian Community over the nature of Yahushua, and what exactly the “Holy Trinity” is. Many Christians are quick to say Yahushua is Elohim, but then claim He and The Father are separate persons somehow.

They preach a doctrine that claims there is One Elohim, but that Elohim is made up of three different people. An example would be there is one senate and 100 senators.

Before the Council of Nicea in 325 AD the doctrine of the trinity was not universally accepted by all the various Christian bishops. When the Constantine organized the first “Orthodox” church there were votes about many things that would be accepted into Constantine’s church, and the trinity doctrine was one of them.

By majority vote it was declared that Yahushua was not YHWH, but rather 1/3 of the “Godhead”.

My purpose is to use the scripture which, along with prayer, should be the bases for what the Christian religion teaches. I believe the answer is in the scripture to what doctrine is true, and what is the traditions of men or attempts by men to use religion for personal gain.

As far as the Christian (in reality, the universal) Elohim goes, no Christian will deny that He created the heavens and the earth. This is taught in the bible in Genesis….

Genesis 1:1 – “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth.”

In Genesis they use Elohim, which is a title and not specific. Further reading into Genesis reveals that the “Elohim” used in Genesis 1:1 is YHWH. In the New Testament there is a short account of Creation, and a clue to who Yahushua is. It’s found in the Book of John….

John 1:1-4 – “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim and the Word was Elohim. He was in the beginning with Elohim. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.”

John suggests here that the Elohim in Genesis was Yahushua. John writes “the Word was Elohim” the Word being Yahushua of course. At the time of Genesis, the Flesh of YHWH which is Yahushua was not yet created.

He was still in Spirit. The nature of Elohim is Spirit, and not Flesh. But so the material world could see Him, YHWH Who is Spirit became Flesh.

Material Fleshy eyes for the most part cannot see spirit, and because of this could not see YHWH. He appeared in Flesh to teach, heal, and then sacrifice for the sins of the world in the ultimate act of love, self sacrifice.

Just as our physical bodies are hosts to our spirits, in the same was is Yahushua the Physical Body for YHWH.

John 14:9 – “Yahushua said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, `Show us the Father?”

This statement is clear “He who has seen Me has seen the Father”. Again in John Yahushua says

John 10:30 – “I and the Father are one.”

It is written in Colossians…

Colossians 1:15-17 – He is the image of the invisible Elohim, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities–all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

Perhaps people do not realize YHWH was still omnipresent while teaching through Yahushua. When Yahushua taught in Matthew 6:9 he said…

Matthew 6:9 – “Pray, then, in this way: `Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your Name.”

YHWH was teaching through Yahushua, and in heaven at the same time. His omnipresence didn’t compromise while in the Flesh. The prayer was meant for all generations of faithful, so when we pray we are praying to Him who has since ascended into heaven.

Some will argue that, because of Yahushua’s words in Matthew 27:46..

Matthew 27:46 – “About the ninth hour Yahushua cried out with a loud voice, saying, “ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?” that is, “MY ELOHIM, MY ELOHIM, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?”

Yahushua and YHWH are two different people, and Yahushua was calling upon Him. First off, the omnipresent YHWH is the Father and Creator of the Flesh Body Yahushua. Secondly it never occurs to anyone that Yahushua is reciting Psalm 22…

Psalm 22:1 – “My Elohim, my Elohim, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.”

YHWH is the Author, and Yahushua is the Author writing Himself into the Story. Writing the story and in the story at the same time. There is only One Elohim, and that theme is consistent throughout scripture.

Exodus 20:2-3 – “I am YHWH your Elohim, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before Me.

What is also consistent in scripture is the fact that YHWH should not and will not share His glory with another. He is the Creator. There is only One.

Scripture supports this, but men and demons alike have been know to issue forth tainted doctrines in order to confuse. Many who claim to accept the trinity doctrine admit its confusing, and doesn’t add up.

The answer is simple. Yahushua and YHWH are One.

“The truth is an offense, but not a sin” – Bob Marley

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“godlikeproductions”, Tavistock & Internet Mass Mind Control

Posted in 07 : The Ruling Controllers with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on 05/27/2010 by timenolonger

last year i was banned twice by the godlikeproductions site.. as of today i have been yet again from it three times more.. after a total of 5 bans from the site, i decided to go digging.. what i found was a rabbit-hole which leads straight down..

in September of 2009 i joined godlikeproductions.com.. i posted in a thread where someone was posting in an effort to get O-Negative blood types, starseeds, crystal children, etc. to join him at a website where their ‘god’ natures could be explored, enhanced, etc.. not long after, i clicked to post a discussion – only to find i’d been banned.

GLP ban page

below the email address there are two notes:

“we sometimes have to ban entire ISP Providers because of attacks on this website.. ”

“If you have been inadvertently caught up in one of these bans please accept our apologies email us and we will try to clear it up for you”

after mailing the staff, i received a reply that the ban had been lifted and perhaps it was my browser that had prevented me from posting.. soon after that, when i tried to post a discussion (unfortunately i don’t recall what that was at the time) – i found i was banned again..

until a couple of weeks ago, i hadn’t been back to the site more than a handful of times.. on May 15th i stopped by and posted a large portion of Culling The Herd : Their Intentions for the Flock.. there were 372 total views.. i wasn’t banned and thought the issue had been resolved..

on May 19th i posted 3 paragraphs from Plan to Put the Whole World in a Demonic Trance – including the paragraph containing this :

“In pre-World War II Germany, the emphasis on eugenics and mind control made a strong come-back. The psychiatric branch of the eugenics field through the Tavistock Institute began to promote social engineering, euthanasia, and sterilization of certain “genetically unfit” groups of people.”

if you’re not familiar, on most given days godlikeproductions tends to have around 1500 people visiting or using the site, and comments can add up quickly.. after posting the above paragraph i decided to check for comments.. there were a few.. i got another post ready and hit the publish link..

GLP ban page inset

and there he was.. that old familiar face again.. not exactly smiling back at me..

banned again, and clueless as to why, i decided to email the support staff and inquire as to why.. the next day a reply followed, instructing me to “try it now”..

here is the transcript of godlikeproduction’s reply email :

Subject: 66Re: Not a Stalker..
Date: 5/20/2010 5:23:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time

> Hi.. why was i banned, please? thank you.
>
> Born Again Nerd : B.A.N. (is it my username initials?..)
>
>

try it now…

{end}

so i went to the site and posted a short comment.. things seemed back to normal..

later that night it was realized that the word “Tavistock”, in paragraph 3 of my discussion post from the day before, had shown up as “Merry Christmas”.. “..The psychiatric branch of the eugenics field through the Merry Christmas Institute began to promote social engineering..”

once again, i was clueless as to why.. i sent a second email to the ban staff, and asked why it was that “Tavistock Institute” was changed to “Merry Christmas Institute”..

Subject: 66Re: 66Re: Not a Stalker..
Date: 5/23/2010 10:34:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time

> Hello.. it’s me again..
>
> thanks for reinstating my abilities..
>
> also, i’m banned again..
>
> why is it that “Tavistock Institute” in my post draft becomes “Merry
> Christmas Institute” once it’s published – and then i’m banned? (i don’t
> recall
> reading anything in the TOS about using the words “Tavistock Institute”)
>
> thanks for the help.
>
> Peace in Messiah

GLP detractors use the bogus TI link to try and inflict some sort of
damage to the site’s reputation, probably trying to drive posters away,
which doesn’t work. We ban because of the haters spamming the forum and we
change the offending words to prevent other posters from quoting them and
getting banned too.

send us your IP again so we can check out the ban for you…

http://www.whatismyip.com/

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i sent it, and the next day received this reply:

Subject: 66Re: 66Re: 66Re: Not a Stalker..
Date: 5/24/2010 5:42:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time

>
> Hi.. that makes sense.. “###IP###”
>
> i appreciate all the help.
>
> Peace in Messiah
>

there are no bans against your IP…but, if you are getting the BK dude
then there’s probably an ISP server ban affecting your IP accessing the
site; you might want to accesss the site via a proxy meantime, sorry for
the inconvenience.

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today i returned, to post a comment in an effort to clarify the “Tavistock”/”Merry Christmas” confusion.. this time i decided to post the word “Tavistock” vertically, just in case.. It didn’t work.. “Merry Christmas” was there instead..

needless to say, i was nonplused.. not only was i being repeatedly banned.. but the word “Tavistock” was apparently related.. which i found odd on its own.

so i began searching for clues.. here is some of what i found in less than an hour..

Oct 2, 2008 : From : thestraightandnarrow.org

“I used to frequent a conspiracy theory message board (forum) called godlikeproductions (http://www.godlikeproductions.com). You can find all sorts of crazy topics on there, but every now and then you can find some truly interesting info that seems to have credible sources that you can actually validate. I would visit for the entertainment value and also for the chance that I might stumble upon a post by someone that might actually know something.

Anyway, one day I saw a post titled “The truth about GLP”. It looked interesting so I clicked it. The poster said to google three things: “webhelper trinity”, “the best kept secret in america” and “godlikeproductions”. Before I did this, I scrolled down to see some of the responses. Someone had posted a couple of sentences that didn’t make sense. They said, “Jack_Frost has caused quite a buzz by buying out a popular internet message board, godlikeproductions.com. He is posting there under the name “^TrInItY^”, and bans anyone who mentions bunny or flowers.”

A couple of posts later, someone quoted that and said, “See! Some of the words automatically got changed” or something along those lines. I thought to myself, “Wow, so this conspiracy theory message board is censoring certain words.” I really wanted to know what the original sentence said so I started googling like the original poster advised. Upon googling “webhelper trinity”, I clicked on the first link and it was to a thread on a message board. I actually found the exact sentence that the poster had copied and pasted (without the changes obviously).

The original sentence was, “Jason Lucas has caused quite a buzz by buying out a popular internet message board, godlikeproductions.com. He is posting there under the name “^TrInItY^”, and bans anyone who mentions lop.com or spyware.” So we see here that Jason Lucas got changed to Jack_Frost, lop.com got changed to bunny, and spyware got changed to flowers. I wanted to make sure that someone wasn’t just messing around, so I decided to test it myself by copying and pasting that sentence into a reply in the thread. Sure enough my post was there with those three words changed.

I immediately went to repost and when I hit “submit” I was greeted with “You are banned from posting” or something similar. This was all within less than a minute. I was very surprised. Apparently, if you post one of the banned words you get auto-banned. A few minutes later the whole thread was deleted.

After a little more research I found out that Jason Lucas used to work for (or still does) lop.com which is/was a company that made spyware and malware. According to some sources, it was speculated that Mr. Lucas works for the US government and this spyware was used to collect info for them. At this point you may be thinking, “so what?” Well, Jason Lucas bought godlikeproductions back in 2004 from the original owner and is a forum moderator there that goes by the name ^TrInItY^. Obviously he doesn’t want word to spread about his past with lop.com. He also attempted to buy Rumormill News and Surfing the Apocalypse; two similar websites. They turned him down.

What’s REALLY interesting is that another one of the banned words there is Tavistock. If you post that word in a thread, it changes to Merry Christmas and you get banned. It doesn’t take much to deduce that Mr. Lucas must be associated with them in some way as well. I have another blog on here that goes into great detail about what Tavistock is. I suggest reading it here.

Basically Tavistock Institute has done much work and research in the fields of mind control and social experimentation. That’s simplifying it, but like I said, if you want to know more read my blog “The best kept secret in America”. I didn’t write the article, but I reproduced it here in it’s entirety. […] ”

Oct 3rd, 2008 at 9:14 am [Comment by “SS”]

“well i can tell you that i joined GLP in the 1999 after running into the forum on cyberspaceorbit.com during some research. this was long before trinity and his gang of mods were even a thought form there. in those days we truly had freedom of speech as i can vouch for the previous owner who actually built the forum.

i ended up leaving GLP due to my research threads constantly being deleted for no reason. they do indeed change many words and some of those do indeed have to do with the word spyware.

i have also witness them take someones private information such as pictures and edit then and post them on their forum ban page in what i consider very hateful ways which i am sure was for their own pleasure.

i suggest the previous owners new forum:

http://www.alien-earth.org

as a viable alternative.”

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Posted By: Rayelan, Rumormill.com
Date: Tuesday, 8-May-2007 03:48:39

“Take a look at the words that will get posters BANNED from GLP the words themselves are also censored…

Some of the banned words/sites are as follows:

Alien earth, proxywhore refuge, modlikeproductions, juryroll, ghosthunterscry, abovetopsecret, rumor mill news, surfing the apocalypse, buddhas grove, malware, spyware, adware, Jason Lucas, Elaine, Defiler, tavistock, stanford research institute. (VN: The link to the stanford research shows funding by Tavistock to various US institutions and Stanford research is one of them, and Donald Rumsfeld was hired there. Scroll down the link to the list of institutions and memorize them, MIT, NIH, etc) Also, using a tiny url will get you automatically banned.

Here is a post from STA. Theresa asks a VERY telling question. WHY would GLP ban the word Tavistock? Why don’t they want people to know anything about Tavistock. And why is information about the Stanford Research Institute banned???

Theresa and I KNOW why Rumor Mill News and Surfing the Apocalypse are banned… they HATE us… we exposed them for what they are… a spook social engineering operation run by god only knows who.

They also ban the name Jason Lucas, he happens to be one of the owners of GLP… I suspect they ban HIS name because they don’t want you to know of his association with GLP and with lop.com… a malware and spyware company.

Don’t believe me… take a look at this article he wrote. It is STILL on a government website:
http://www.ftc.gov/os/comments/spyware/040312lucas.pdf

Mr. Jason Lucas
C2 Media Ltd.
London, (VN: home of Tavistock Institute)
United Kingdom

FTC Public Workshop: “Monitoring Software On Your
PC: Spyware, Adware, And Other Software”
April 19, 2004

Dear Sirs:

As someone “in the industry,” I wish to submit for your review a brief (but necessary) description of the actual difference between ‘adware’ and ‘spyware,’ together with an explanation of why that distinction is extremely important in the present controversy that has generated so much public debate. In order to understand the current situation regarding………..”

Isn’t it interesting that Jason Lucas is from London… as is Tavistock? Now I wonder if the operation that went on, several years ago, at GLP, which tried to destroy “Rayelan” and “Theresa” was a Tavistock inspired operation?

It certainly makes you wonder doesn’t it? If you don’t have a clue as to what I am talking about… please carefully read the information I have inserted in this post.”

vaticproject.blogspot.com

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there is so much discussion, past and present, regarding this circular relationship.. unfortunately many of the links to articles with details on things like godlikeproductions and CIA involvement and Jason Lucas offering to buy the “abovetopsecret” site, have apparently been deleted from their various sources..

More and more, information sources and networks that were once useful, even if only temporarily, are being sucked into the vortex of communication control.. not just the internet conspiracy sites.. not too many looks into the societal state of reality and one notices the shift of vast numbers of agencies, businesses, churches and schools toward a censored singular system.

where does this leave the people who actually care to learn and repeat the truth?

on our toes, for one, i’m sure.. doubtful it’s any real surprise to anyone who has visited, that godlikeproductions is a beast tool.. or ATS.. or actually, just about any major site out there.. the pickings are getting ultra-slim, and the bones of what’s left are being boiled down to a thick slime of programmed rhetoric and reality-censorship that is brewing in virtual petri dishes on tell-tale tables in the black labs of the ruling controllers.

regardless of what group really runs any major site.. i think it’s safe to say that when the bread crumbs of any of them are followed far enough, one inevitably finds the source back in the thick forest of confusion which may as well be known as the Dragon’s Den.

Satan’s ultimate control and rulership of sin is the source of course, and i think we’ve all noticed the increased lack of information on subjects which shine lights into the weak-eyed topics of his plans and exploits, especially when the trail weaves such a tight web of deceit and violation around the truth..

major internet networks have, nearly shamelessly, become barely-covert breeding baths for toxic ideas and well-kept experimentation grounds, cultivating participants’ minds into dull robotic thorns.

thankfully, we are given rights in Messiah to continue to learn and share the truth about Him, as well as the truth about the enemy. this life is temporary, and while it’s not wise to make one’s self a target, there is certainly only good in telling the truth about the lies.

“Make me to understand the way of Thy precepts: so shall I talk of Thy wondrous works”
(Psalm 119:27)

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