7 Responses to “The Beast That Rises Up Out of the Sea”

  1. These seven heads being the seven Merovingians makes sense. In fact it is amazing information.
    Do you have already an idea who/what are the ten horns, and who is the one horn who is wounded and healed?
    Is Europa the same beast who was, is not and will be?

    As I read Daniel 11, somehow the story of Antiochus Epiphanes fades into the endtimes, proven by Daniel 12:1 ff .
    I always thought the beast that was, has “possessed” Antiochus…

  2. Hi Follower,

    I do not yet have any sure idea about who or what exactly is referenced by ten horns. Perhaps it is likely that this also refers to some group within the EU. I am also curious about the one who is wounded and returns. There is an assumption that it is someone who will die from a wound and then come back right away. What if it is rather someone who has died quite some time ago and is cloned? (such as Antiochus Epiphanes whom you mentioned) These are things i hope to seek out if they can be sought out before the time but i can not say i have a sure idea right now.

    Europa was not actually the beast, but rather the bride of the beast. Europa having been taken captive by some very strange aquatic, chimeric creature who’s kind gets a lot of attention in ancient cultures after the flood. Perhaps the one who was and is not and will be is one king of that bloodline who will be pseudo Messiah.

    Peace in Messiah

    Prodigal Son

  3. Hi Returned Son :-)

    so the reptilian shapeshifter-videos (Bush etc.) are real? FREAKY!

    As far as I know, the Jews wait for a Messiah from the davidic bloodline.. the english crown claims to be his descendants.. even Nimrods..
    That would mean Prince Charles or William would be the Son of Perdition.. on the cuttingedge website was once a very convincing article that this is so.

    Re 10 horns, I have long believed, that the 10 horns are the 10 superstates which are currently formed (EU; NAU, African Union, ASEAN,…).. as this plan is outlined by the Club of Rome..

    the 10 leaders of this superregions give their power over to the false Messiah .. 3 leaders will make him problems and are rooted out by him…
    this would explain his dominion over the whole earth, world government..

    Did you read 2012:Apollyon Rising by Tom Horn?
    America was built as the New Atlantis!

    I think the picture will get much clearer as we near 2012.

    • Hi Follower,

      There are those who can shape shift to a serpent form, though the Beast of Neptune was a different bloodline than the serpent or dragon hybrid type. the Watchers were a specific angelic type who came to Earth in a physical state and commingled with human women, this is a different (later) rebellion than the one Satan led. Satan and his followers represent the serpent/ dragon type and also intermingled after the Watchers introduced the means to do so. The Watchers were imprisoned before the flood and their line would have died out except for chimera creatures they had introduced their genes into that could survive a flooded Earth. So such creatures as the merman or quinotaur the “Beast of Neptune” would have been the source of Watcher descent among European noble lines. The Merovingian line boasts both sets of genes (Watcher and Dragon) and this is the basis of them claiming to have both the bloodline of Satan and the “Divine” bloodline. Legends turn this claim to say that they carry the bloodline of Yahushua, but this certainly not the case. Watchers and their influence on the world take the part of the evil which mimics what good looks like while the Dragon instead directs the counter-culture. Two factions which can seem to be at odds from a worldly viewpoint but truly are just counterpart types working toward the same evil goal.

      Prince Charles or his son would be of the right family to be the pseudo Messiah though perhaps he also could come from one of the other branches of the family. almost all of the US presidents can trace their bloodlines back to this family or one branch of it.

      You might be correct about the ten horns. It is certainly a logical explanation of them.

      I have never read the Tom Horn book but i have heard quite a bit about it. i believe it is possible that the elite will use 2012 possibly and the expectation of that date to their ends. one thing that we should keep in mind though is that the Mayan prophecy theory itself has certain problems in the reasoning which arrived at it being a date of consequence astrologically. i would not guess this calendar was actually the work of Mayans originally, but handed down to them. the calendar itself does not attach any specific meaning to the point at which it ends, but it marks a precise precessional point. for the Dec. 2012 date to be correct, those that interpreted the calendar in modern times must be exactly correct in their calculations of precession of the equinoxes. the trouble is that there is not a very good understanding of precession, the length of a great year or how long any of this should take either in mainstream science or outside of it. i think it is a very opportune moment to stage a false rapture event though.

      Yes, very true, the United States was founded as the manifest destiny of the New Order of the Ages, a revived “Atlantis”.

      Peace in Messiah

      – Prodigal Son

  4. “It has been explained by Christian leadership as being symbolic of this beast being derived out of many nations, the sea being a figurative way of meaning many peoples or nations.

    There must be an example in scripture, then, of this metaphor being deciphered so that it is clear that “sea” is figurative language for a host of multinational people.”

    What does Rev. 17:15 mean to you? And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

    To me, that is an example.

    • Hi D,

      If Rev. 17:15 should stand as an example for Rev. 13 then the idea is sea = water, water = sea. There is perhaps already a precedent for water being an analogy for human life:

      “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” – John 3:5

      But the “sea” in question denotes something more specific. It points to being a particular body of water and the references to “water” versus “sea” in Revelation show that, i think.

      Here is the initial reference to the “waters” which are symbolic of multitudes and nations:

      “And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:”

      waters: hydor – water in rivers, fountains, pools
      waters of the flood
      subterranean waters
      as a primary element
      waves of the sea
      figurative for many people

      revelation 13:1
      “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”

      sea: Thalassa – the sea in general
      specifically the Mediterranean or Red sea.

      It might be noted that Thalassa is also a proper name for a Greek Sea Goddess.

      It should also be taken into consideration that next is described the beast which came from the earth. If Sea should = many people, what should earth be equivalent to?

      I think it is natural to assume that because a sea contains water, that an analogy for water also pertains to the word “sea”, however this is not the way the scripture is using the properties of water and sea, as if equivalent.

      It is an interesting and long list of coincidences if the beast described in Revelation is not connected with the pagan beliefs about a sea beast and it is far more of a stretch for me to believe in big coincidences than to see a different interpretation than what the average church provides.

      Peace in Yahushua Messiah

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